Is Ontario First-Past-the-Post? Because if it is, no surprises there.
Ranked choice now, please.
this post was submitted on 28 Jul 2024
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The unofficial Lemmy movement to bring proportional representation to all levels of government in Canada.
Voters deserve more choice and accountability from all politicians.
Le mouvement non officiel de Lemmy visant à amener la représentation proportionnelle à tous les niveaux de gouvernement au Canada.
Les électeurs méritent davantage de choix et de responsabilité de la part de tous les politiciens.
- What is First-Past-The-Post (FPP)?
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I’m down for proportional representation (PR) for voting in elections, with each voter having a single transferable vote (STV).
There are many voting systems. PR is nice, but almost any of them would be better than FPTP.
Yeah, honestly it's just a question of whichever is easiest to enstate. They all allow for 3rd parties which is the main thing here – breaking the duopoly on power.
Exactly, seriously just give me anything.
Stv works in Australia + Malta and Alberta used it until the 50s, mmpr in New Zealand and Welsh + Scottish parliament. Australia also has instant runoff for the lower chamber so like we don't have to use one form everywhere, use what makes sense. I'm pointing out commonwealth nations as we generally all have some form of Westminster parliament, but there's other examples too, Germany uses mmpr afaik
Germany has a better way of representing the people but it also has its problems. We have a comically big parliament because of the way our system works
Exactly, seriously just give me anything.
Even frickin' random ballot would have advantages over FPTP.
Yes it is, further our current premier made it illegal for municipalities to use other voting systems because he doesn’t want people to understand them (London was going to use ranked iirc)
Why would the political leadership change an election system in a way that would hurt their odds of winning reelection?
He’s provincial not municipal
The system was going to be for council/mayor and he made it so they don’t have authority to change their own systems
It's even worse for Americans... Most of us DO vote against our own conservative party (as a unified, majority group), and yet we still deal with them running our government.
I understand that a lot of our bullshit bleeds into Canada these days as well... We're sorry our worst are doing that. We don't send the best ideas or people up there, clearly. Just a bunch of racist, xenophobic, bad hombres.
And 6 million didn't vote.
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