I did not have "RDJ comes back to the MCU as a non-Stark character" on my bingo card
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watch it be a multiverse version of Tony Stark.
edit: also if this is legit I am disappointed they didn't long-tease the reveal in movies or post credit scenes. this seems very un-marvel, maybe out of desperation. they straight up blew what could have been the biggest and most shocking reveal in history.
edit 2: also, how long until "I am Dr Doom!"
Tony made Ultron as the ultimate defense around the world. I could see the idea going a slightly different way and that Tony being a little more ambitious/evil, next thing you know he's Doom.
I get that I'm in the minority, but I think this is going to not be related to Iron Man at all.
Rdj has range. And Doom wears a mask. I think he decided he was too old to keep playing Tony and wanted to retire the character on a high note, but the movies are fun to make and make him a mint, so when they offered a recast he went for it. But I don't think he'd want to screw with the completed story for Tony Stark's character.
I think RDJ is just going to play Doom, and he'll do a good enough job that no one is going to confuse the characters. Based on his acting choices, that's my guess.
That just sounds super confusing. I know Marvel has done that with some smaller characters, but Tony Stark is the closest thing the MCU has/had to a main character. If it's not an alternate Ironman it'll just confuse audiences.
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It will almost certainly be a multi verse Tony Stark gone evil.
And I'll bet anything it's Spider-Man that unmasks him and discovers it, leading to a whole mental breakdown by Peter.
Hasn't Peter had enough breakdowns yet?
Have you read the comics? If not - Peter Parker is constantly traumatized by shit going horribly wrong or failing to account for something frequently. I'd say it's a running gag but Stan Lee wanted a super hero people could connect with at a human level.
Or a Doombot with Stark’s face to fuck with the Avengers.
That seems like something they should’ve waited to reveal during the movie, like had some misdirection about RDJ just being in it for a flashback or a recorded video, just downplay it and make it seem small. Then bust the revelation out midway through the movie.
I'm sure they considered that possibility. But imagine the revenue. RDJ and Doom are both huge draws. Revealing them both in advance gets you more makes money gesture
Now we can make money and make a shitty movie.
but you can do that in other ways in-universe as they did with thanos and other upcoming characters. its very un-marvel.
I found this post browsing All. I have had significant superhero fatigue right after infinity war part 2, after a whole decade of mild disbelief at how huge these once-niche characters have become.
This headline definitely grabbed my attention, and as you said, the fact that they’re spoiling that he’s going to play Doom is why I checked this thread.
revealing them both
Even mentioning them as separate things wouldn’t have made me look. Their marketing machine is definitely working overtime to get the attention of people burned out on superhero movies.
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...what?
The?
F?
Flip?
I don’t like it. Seems weird. An article I read said that he would NOT be playing a multiverse version of Doom, but actually Victor Von Doom.
Now, based on that I have two thoughts:
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He was originally a Tony Stark multiverse version but became corrupted and no longer thinks of himself as Tony so he IS Victor Von Doom (like an identity shift).
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He has Tony Stark’s face and will be revealed in a mask off moment. However, the twist is that it’s actually a Doombot and Tony’s face is used to mess with the Avengers. Maybe Doombots can have any face he chooses?
#2 would actually be a worthwhile twist.
Any of the others... Idk.
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I mean it’s definitely odd, but if he’s masked the whole time, then I guess it’s the same as any other actor doing it.
then by that logic why have RDJ do it anyway.
Studio had about 75 million dollars laying around and figured, "what the hell?"
I don't agree with the assertion that we definitely won't see his face, but the star power will be a draw.
well yeah that was my point. if they are using RDJ clearly they are going to use him in a recognizable way.
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Well now. That's a course correction.
So they're doing a hard pivot away from the Kang stuff after the combination of the Majors scandal and underperformance of Quantumania?
They already have, Loki Season 2 was tossed out the window in re-writes because of it.
No way lmao. It'll be good I'm sure, but Doom seems like a bigger bad than just one movie. Is he really jumping in for another round of films?
Is he really jumping in for another round of films?
His bed of money wasn't as comfortable anymore, so he wanted a bit more padding
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I'm kind of weirdly excited because I've been wanting him to come back as Doctor Doom for awhile now but didn't think it would actually happen.
There's just so much room for character drama with our avengers having to make sense of a villainous version of their hero. Also room to play with the dichotomy of stark being a man of science and Doom more into magic.
Is there a reason you wanted RDJ for Doctor Doom? I haven't read the comics so I'm unfamiliar but I would have expected him not even to be in the conversation. Is there some kind of cannon connection between stark and him? I always thought his link was to the Fantastic Four primarily.
Tony Stark and Victor Von Doom are entirely separate people. Unless there's some bizarre series I'm not aware of connecting them.
There was a short comic run where Dr. Doom becomes Ironman after Tony dies that I really liked. The only thing connecting them is that they're both dudes in suits of armor otherwise.
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Iron Man can't be Doc Doom. No.
There's actually a multiverse where tony stark becomes doom. Just an fyi
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