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[–] [email protected] 88 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I’m a doctor. My job exists because nature hates you, and we can do better.

I have to hold my tongue when patients tell me they don’t want vaccines because they “want to do it naturally.” Fuck nature. Nature made polio, and polio paralyzes children. Nature can kiss my ass.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nature also made us too fucking stupid to realize we don't have massive viral issues because vaccines work.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

“I don’t want no vaccine! I want to get natural immunity, then I’ll be protected!”

That’s called “getting the disease,” dumbass…

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

1000012896

your wish has been granted

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nature also made our kickass brains which we use to create these amazing things.

Those same idiots drive home in a car to an air conditioned home. What’s “natural” about any of that?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Yep, tool use evolved pretty early in animals (some insects and fish can use tools,) though of course humans have gone a step further and use tools to make other, better tools.

The smallpox vaccine was developed in 1796, nearly a century before the first phone and a good 20 years before the first bicycles. The tech in COVID-19 vaccines was discovered 20 years before the first iPhone, but people act like it was invented yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Nature also gives us clean air, water, climate, timber, soil, food, pollination, beautiful wilderness and wildlife. Maybe not all bad.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

turns 50

Dammit, nature, you suck; I'm supposed to be dead. And I sacrificed so many children to you!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

That's why she chose to keep you alive.

Become one with the woods. Take the lost children. Achieve immortality.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

You could just as easily say nature wants empathy, cooperation and collective action. Also that tool use that Mr Frum seems so fond of, nature wants that too.

But of course the nature doesn't want, it just is.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is that David Frum, speechwriter to the Bush Jr administration? Writer of speeches about the axis of evil? Writer of speeches to whip up frenzy for an invasion of Iraq? An invasion based on lies? That David Frum?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Nature wants you to live to 50. Anything less than that is brought to you by Blackwater

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Pretty sure that "dead by 50 thing" includes all the infant mortality.

I bet he's also using the stats from peak mortality of European late middle ages with urbanisation but no good sewers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

50 actually seemed about right for me excluding infants so I looked it up.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2625386/

That study looks at lifespan after reaching 5, and 50 might still be a little generous with the care that humans could provide each other 50,000 years ago. 50 is about the lifespan of a king 3,000 years ago, I can't imagine gen pop faired better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

It's also a sample size of 15 all "King's of Judah" which is already urbanised.

But it's good to see some decent data. It's a nice irregular line from there on, and women do gain a lot more improvement than men.

I wish I had access to scholarly journals still to do my own research, but I don't so I'll defer to your stuff for now. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how the stats were in the stone age.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Me too. We have plenty of bones of people who lived into old age with signs of disability or having been crippled.

But the overall stats not only do I not know, but since we only have a relatively minor number of data points it's hard to really say any of us will ever know.

What we have does tend to point to being better than a medieval city iirc, and I think the general consensus amongst anthropologists is that the transition to agriculture saw a decrease in life expectancy.

[–] RandomVideos 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Shouldnt fire and cooking meat count as science and technology?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That too.

Even the humble napped flint.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Me when I hear there's a way to get the articles without paying money

Ctrl+ult+delete reaction pic expressing reverence

Me years later when the hospital calls saying a red-eyed raven came demanding its due.

Loss panels 1 and 2

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Totally lost as to what you mean here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You can use sci-hub to get almost any scientific article for free. But is it really free?

Also, context as per the comic panels used : https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/loss

All of this of course following the hypothesis that you must sacrifice your children to read Nature, as per the original meme.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I was totally at loss

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I was referencing loss :D But thanks for the explanations

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

nature doesn't want for anything

nature is everything

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

TIL I did not have to sacrifice my child to read Nature. You live you learn right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

You are a pirate!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

not everyone gets to

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

As for what The Lancet wants from you, here's a hint: Scottish Golden Age of Medicine

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I hate when people manipulate me so obviously. I feel insulted. It’s like intellectual groping

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago

I think things would be a lot better if it was still that way