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[–] [email protected] 119 points 3 months ago (22 children)

Yeah. His family was conservative and pro-2A. Whatever the narrative is here, it isn't a left-wing thing. The way the right has a fetish for guns, no one is surprised.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Shrug... I always assume gun enthusiasts have a dozen or more. If you're going to have one or two, you may as well have a dozen. You can only pop one at a time anyway.

I know many folks don't like guns but since guns are allowed, it's worth understanding that collecting them and learning about them is a hobby just like any other.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

All gun enthusiasts I know have many. And if I could be arsed going through the necessary paperwork of getting ownership permits (Not murican), I would as well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Guns are like tattoos. If you're into them, you probably have a bunch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not what you'd call an "enthusiast", I just hunt. And between friends and relatives, you just kinda end up with extra shotguns and rifles. I give some to new hunters but it seems like the old relatives all get out of it and if they know you hunt, you end up with them

I read these stories about "lunatic gunman had a dozen firearms" and cue up look-away-meme.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago

Worth keeping in mind the dude is 20 and lives with his parents. The vast majority of them probably aren't his. The economy isn't that good.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is super, SUPER normal for this area. Seriously. This is like announcing the shooter had a dog and propane grill in the back yard.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (6 children)

This is super, SUPER normal for this area.

I mean, “more than a dozen” covers a lot of ground. Does that mean 15? Sure, that’s probably normal. 50? That’s weird.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Oh but you know NBC would say DOZENS! if there were 50.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does that mean 15? Sure, that’s probably normal.

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Americans are weird.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Propane?! Clearly they are a terrorist of some flavor

/s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Taste the meat not the heat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably has a spare high capacity propane tank, too

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

A clear and present danger if I ever heard one

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Relatedly (arc),

In 2016 the Trump campaign built a database profiling millions of voters in key battleground states – including the family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks.

It found that both the parents of Thomas Crooks were very likely to be gun owners and shared other gun-related lifestyle indicators.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

From the details that have come out about him already I would be surprised if he wasn't referred as that before. It is actually a pretty common "nickname" for kids that don't fit in even when they don't have hunting as a main personality trait already.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I used to get called the Columbine kid all the time for being goth back in my day, among other bullying

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What were they expecting to find? A pile of Blåhaj? The Communist Manifesto?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

*hoping to find, yes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

The headline is about the guns but the article section on Data is really interesting, especially if you don't know how they score potential voters for targeted messages.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why are they still saying "suspected" shooter?

How much evidence does one need before they can definitely say something?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He was never convicted in a court of law. They are always "suspected ______" until they are "convicted _____". Since we don't try people posthumously (yet), they will never be convicted.

Colloquially, people will just stop saying that detail. But it's still there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I imagine once the investigation is closed, they'll stop using "suspected".

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Breaking News: Man who used gun owns more than one gun.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Oh imagine the surprise! People with an unhealthy gun fetish have other mental issues, too!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

Little bit of hunting experience here. Let's say I'm hunting a deer.

If I miss no big deal. The problems begin when the shot hits the deer but doesn't kill it. Their adrenaline sours the meat. And, one needs to chase it down to humanely kill it. No matter how hard I try I'll eventually miss and maim a deer.

I do two things preventatively: First, I don't take a shots without good chance of a one shot kill. Second, I'm always prepared ASAP to send the second round, and a third. My accuracy drops severely for the fourth in practice. So, I don't shoot a fourth outside of practice.

This shooter couldn't close the range for a better shot. He also wasn't prepared for a miss. The second round should be down range almost immediately, even on a bolt action and especially on a wisely chosen bolt action. He was a smidgeon of humility away from a greatly increased chance of success.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What other kinds of guns were found? I mean specifics. Handguns? Shotguns? Rifles?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is that a lot? Kind of sounds like a lot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Not really, a collection of 1 isn't really a collection is it?

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