Not from the US and I don't understand why one would support a candidate just because he survived an assassination attempt. Can somebody explain the logic behind this?
this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2024
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I guess it made him look stronger or cooler or something. He'll probably also use this to say that Democrats are trying to kill him, insinuating that they don't mind killing people to achieve their goals.
Which is funny because killing people to achieve his goals is Trumps political platform.
It does seem weird that a felonious rapist would get a boost from not dying. Even more baffling that he’s likely a pedo.
But lying and spinning by a corrupt machine can go along way in a country full of ignorant assholes.
American here, I haven't heard one peep about Trump getting more support because of this outside of Lemmy.
Whether or not the Trump campaign can spin this in their favor depends entirely on the motive of the assassin. If they were just some nutjob, there really isn't much they can do.
If, on the other hand, the assassination attempt was politically motivated, there are two ways I can see this whole thing being spun:
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"The other side knows I'll win and the only way to stop me is to kill me. If you don't like them, vote for me because I scare them and they hate me."
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"The other side is so evil and vile they would stoop to try to kill me rather than have a fair election".
In the event that the assassin wasn't some flavor of crazy, spin number one is more likely than spin number two, but they're hardly mutually exclusive.
Does it matter if it's true? It hasn't in the past
Not to the "base" of either of the major parties, no. Those voters are already committed to their candidates.
This election is likely to come down to independents and undecided voters. Where that messaging could matter is with people who are unsatisfied with the Democratic party AND dislike Trump.
The idea that "they hate me enough to kill me" might be compelling to someone with a strong dislike of the Democratic party, perhaps enough to get them to hold their nose and vote for Trump. That being said, I wouldn't even venture a guess at how many people that would be.
PredictIT increased the chance that trump would win to 66% from 60.
I don't think the motivation matters. They will just spin it in any way they think it will benefit them.
It's not a purely American phenomena. It paints a candidate in a human light, as they "survived" a very public "tragedy", yet are still strongly pursuing what they think is right.
It's a humanizing event.
This is not a pro trump comment.
Edit but this is certainly not a pro violence comment either
This is the truth. This is what everyone has been trying to communicate.
I'm in the US but I don't necessarily see any proof of this. I'm not sure where this narrative is coming from, it's very strange.
Reagans assassination attempt
So I guess past experience, basically? We'll see. Political violence is not justifiable but no one really likes that orange prick except his little goon army so we'll see how long the sympathy lasts.
no one really likes that orange prick
The Republicans will fall in line behind their guy like they always do, despite their complaining
i heard somebody say that bolsenaro got a boost in the polls after he got stabbed
Depending on how the event is spun (story-wise), an attempt like this could make the other candidate's party seem unhinged enough that one of their members would do (and apparently fail badly at) this. This, making the target, and their party by association, seem more noble than thay may be.
To a lot of people, whether the shooting is or isn't affiliated doesn't really get questioned no matter what they hear, as what party would hurt itself? They'll immediately think there is some conspiracy (the human psychology loves these rabbit holes) to make it seem like any favoring affiliation to the target's political side is staged by the other.
Voting against the people who got their base that riled up
I honestly think this is overblown.
Republicans have destroyed decorum as well as the truth and patriotism.
When Obama killed Bin Laden they shat on him.
When Pelosi was attacked they shat on her.
When children were killed in any of the mass shootings, they shat on them.
When the pandemic happened they shat on doctors and first responders.
So this sense of "coming together after an event" isn't a thing anymore. Republicans killed it. No-one that didn't love Trump before is going to be moved by this shit.
I think the only thing that will come of this is a number of Trump supporters that might have forgotten to vote will be sure to vote now.
or they'll think they have it in the bag and not actually get out the vote
I've seen way more dunking on Trump than anything else. From gun control to his failure to actually become a martyr after years of fantasizing about it.
It’d be a lot cooler if he did
Yeah, can we not resort to political violence? Using bullets to determine leaders is a shitty way to govern.
Yeah, well shitty officials still beat an all out civil war in the US. How do you think the far right regard Palestinian lives?
The voting booth that doesn't determine the president by popular vote?
Yeah, that's the one. We need reform but not through the barrel of a rifle.
Yeah just like in 1776..
Only an idiot or a maniac would want a war. I hope you never see war.
Only one side keeps bringing all the violence
That might be generally true but it's not entirely true, a far left extremist shot up a republican ball game a few years ago. Terrorism is terrorism no matter who perpetrates it.
Honestly nobody is really talking about this much except for loud online spaces and the media. The everyday person like today at work would rather talk about video games and the like. We talked about it a bit at work but then we mostly talked about Shadow of the Erd Tree. The world is so crazy these days we're all desensitized. It's just another shooting in America.
The RNC is this week, so I hope that still holds true.
The "rally around the flag" effect in polling might be a little diminished in this instance as the attempted assassination was on someone who helped incite the Jan 6th Capitol Riots...
Hope so. Unfortunately, this makes him look strong, in a time, when Biden looks weak. Maybe Biden could punch a reporter at the next presser to steal his thunder. Maybe Peter Doocey - he looks punchable.
crazy people vote 🤷🏻♀️
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