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Satanic Temple objects to governor’s push for more religion in schools and says members could act as student chaplains

Dark messengers of satanism could soon be walking the hallways of Florida’s public schools, and it’s a consequence of hard-right governor Ron DeSantis’s push for more religion in education.

Members of the Satanic Temple say they are poised to act as volunteer chaplains under a state law that took effect this week opening campuses to “additional counseling and support to students” from outside organizations.

Although HB 931 leaves the implementation of chaplain programs to individual school districts, and only requires schools to list a volunteer’s religion “if any”, DeSantis has made clear its intent is to restore the tenets of Christianity to public education.

Without the bill, DeSantis said at its signing in April: “You’re basically saying that God has no place [on campus]. That’s wrong.”

The satanists see the law, which comes amid a vigorous theocratic drive into education by the religious right nationally, as an equal opportunity: if Christian chaplains are permitted access to students, often at the most vulnerable and impressionable stages of their lives, then so are they.

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[–] [email protected] 207 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Dark messengers of satanism

Fucking Guardian... either falling for stupid propaganda or using scare words. Shameful either way.

The Satanic Temple's Seven Fundamental Tenets:

I. One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

II. The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

III. One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

IV. The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.

V. Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.

VI. People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

VII. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets

What sort of "dark messengers" preach compassion and justice?

[–] [email protected] 161 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I think that was meant to be tongue in cheek. The article also says:

There are, however, no plans to introduce studies of the dark arts or satanic rituals to any classroom. The Satanic Temple champions Satan not as a literal, omnipresent demon, but as a symbol of rebellion and resistance to authoritarianism. It says its strategy here is to highlight flagrant violations of the constitutionally protected separation of church and state.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

definitely not a very good article opener then

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It was, but it was a poor time to joke when it's such a common misconception.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It's a good thing it's a common misconception. The misconception is the point.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago

What sort of “dark messengers” preach compassion and justice?

Christian missionaries.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

To be fair, they call themselves The Satanic Temple. If they didn't want to court the "dark messenger" notoriety in the first place, they would just call themselves something serious like The Humanist Society.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Q: What do you call people who believe in the existence of Satan?

A: Christians.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

The whole point of calling themselves Satanists is to spook Christians, and the article is playing into the joke on purpose.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (19 children)

Guessing you didn't read the article, since they elaborated more about the Satanic temple further down?

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Thank God we have Satanists.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

We’ll never stop. 🙂

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 months ago (7 children)

"Dark messengers for Satanism"... Modern journalism really is fucking stupid. The Satanic Temple doesn't do anything like that, and starting your article out that way comes across as totally unserious and diminishes the work the Satanic Temple is actually out there doing.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The whole point of calling themselves Satanists is to spook Christians, and the article is playing into the joke on purpose.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Hey fair point!

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (3 children)

"More Goths, Less Cloths" has a nice ring to it if someone wants to use that as a campaign slogan for a school board seat.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They also sounds like a specialty boutique strip club

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago

Hail Satan ⛧

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ok kids, time for your lesson...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

"I always thought there couldn't possibly be a God, with all the evil in the world. But perhaps... all this evil exists because there is a God. Perhaps, yes, perhaps this God just isn't a particularly nice guy. It's possible that God isn't a DJ, but an arsehole."

"He's probably both. A DJ who exclusively plays Rammstein at a kid's birthday party."

"You know the saying that God created Man in His image? Well, look around. If you assume that God is an arsehole, it suddenly makes a lot of sense."

Freely translated from The Kangaroo Chronicles by Marc-Uwe Kling

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Inb4 Desantis says "no, not you. You don't serve the Christan God and therefore aren't a recognized religion."

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least we can count on SCOTUS to strike that down, right?

Right?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

How much money can we pull together for Clarence Thomas?

I heard the corrupt shithead also likes free vacations, so maybe we can chip in on a Royal Caribbean cruise or something, and maybe get him a snow cone and a breath mint on the side.

Clarence Thomas:

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you read the article, he already did.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh boy. Can't wait for the stacked Florida courts to not strike down this non Christian religious discrimination.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Proud member of the Satanic Temple since 2021. Unlike catholics, christians, muslims, jewish, mormons, and scientologists, I've had nothing but great news from my religion since 😁 We just keep rolling out the hits, challenging religious overreach at every turn.

We're now accepting donations to open our second abortion facility, and you can have a chance to name it!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

religion and capitalism - the banes of human existence

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

For those in the back, god has no place

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What are they going to do? Arrest them? There are only so many resources the state of Florida can throw at stupid shit like this before their economy implodes. But hey, the tax payers their will pay for it. In state, and federally.

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