Are people here reading the whole mastodon thread?
it is 200% okay to bully them into submission
Sounds rather toxic, and also counterproductive.
this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2024
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How tone-deaf can a developer be.
Much more
The person doing free labor and providing open source software doesn't use the preferred vocabulary.... Still a net positive, no reason to brigade their issue tracker for wrong think.
Encouraging the internet to harass a volunteer is low.
Nothing stopping people from forking the project changing the vocabulary, and maintaining their fork. But that's more work than drive by hate
I think it’s pretty stupid of the developer to have that attitude. I think it’s equally as stupid to advocate against using a piece of software because of that, though
What's wrong with sticking to the code? People should not be chastised for declining to engage with someone.
If lunduke reports on it, yanno there's an agenda.. A browser for humanity he said !! 😑 we haven't even started yet...lol
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additional transphobia https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/8046#issuecomment-860350155
I fail to see how this is "transphobia". Can you explain please?
It's kinda both transphobia and sexism, by actively refusing to accept that people with pronouns other than he/him might be reading it.
The reason transphobia comes to mind most of all is the way transphobes often rally against the use of they/them. This extends to being nonspecific (like in the link), rather than specifically inclusive of non-binary people, as they perceive a well accepted use of they/them to be part of an agenda. Transphobes often prefer the clunky "he/she", rather than using a single word ("they"), for this reason.
Hope that helps
You're assuming there was even any ill intent or specific purpose in using that word, if it was even chosen on purpose.
Without asking Andreas I don't think people should assume intent. More importantly, I think open source project collaboration should be focused solely on technical merits alone.
Why on earth would you decline this PR? Like the person who submitted it did all the work? I can see saying "fixing the pronouns in the docs isn't a high priority" but it's silly when the work is already done. Doubly so because, if the submitter had been coy and snuck the pronoun change in with another submission, no one would have declined it.
Because they don't want to get involved in political drama, except people seem to be forcing their way in and actively trying to "cancel" the project over it now. I've seen this happen many times in recent years, "silence is violence" is their MO. I'm always sad when I see people have nothing better to do than sabotage a volunteer project that never did anything wrong.
Just like with NixOS, they can't seem to figure out "just stick to the code" and leave all this other nonsense out of it.
The submitter was respectful and trying to help. They used their own time to make a change at no cost to the project. There was no downside to accepting the PR.
The BDFL rejecting the PR and calling it political is the cause of the drama. That's entirely self inflicted.
calling it political
What would you prefer it had been called? It's their project and they can do whatever they want with it. I see no reason to get all bent out of shape about it. Not everyone has to agree, and the important part to realize is that that's ok.
It's their project and they can do whatever they want with it.
This is a common mistake. According to the documentation of the project only he/him people can contribute, not they/them.
To the reply,
I'd hoped the tongue in cheek nature of the comment was clear. Obviously I don't believe only men are allowed to contribute to the project as some matter of policy, but I couldn't help but make the jab at them for refusing the PR to try to be the smallest bit more inclusive as well as fix the grammar.
Open source project collaboration should revolve around technical merits only.
No. I don't know where the line should be specifically and I don't think it's worth discussing, but in general I don't see a problem with being hesitant to work with bigots, for example.
I disagree, and I think believing that's what they actually meant is disingenuous and inflammatory. You're suggesting they even care who contributes. Without asking Andreas, we have no idea why that word was chosen or if it was even intentional. And mote importantly it shouldn't matter. Open source project collaboration should revolve around technical merits only.
2021
nothing burger, people are just upset they got a million dollars and trying to stir up old drama.
It's coming up today because the person who rejected the PR announced they got funding for Ladybird.
Why should I even care about devs attitude or toxicity at all? People have to learn to separate developer from their software.
Bruh. I am still gonna give them the benefit of the doubt unless Andreas Kling addresses the issue. I hope Servo doesn't turn out to be like this.