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[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago

after a test version of Firefox leaked

I don't think, that's quite the right verb in an open-source context...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Interesting concept. This might actually be usable for me because my display is super wide. Websites generally don’t handle extremely wide displays very well, so as of today it’s wasted space.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I never got vertical tabs, I just feel like I'm loosing screen real estate. For managing a lot of tabs I much prefer the Simple Tab Groups extension.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

that's interesting because frankly I feel the opposite.vertical screen real estate is at a premium, it's already common to have a horizontal taskbar and/or menubar eating into the desktop space, and then any browser UI like address bars eat into it more. Meanwhile most websites I visit are filled with whitespace on either side and always require scrolling down, often infinitely scrolling down, so the more vertical space the more you can fit on screen without scrolling.

To put it another way: I rarely full screen my browser because making it wider doesn't help, but I usually have it filling the maximum vertical space. Granted I'm on an ultra wide making this problem worse, but even at work on a 16:9 I feel the same way

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which website actually has a layout that makes use of your extra space, and doesn't center the content with empty space on the left and right side? I actually have barely ever noticed a case where it was useful

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

YouTube for one, and if you were to place two windows side by side you'd loose a lot of space on duplicate tab bars.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Not sure what you're actually losing on YouTube though... You go fullscreen quickly anyway. And if I put two windows side by side I just disable the tab because I'm likely doing it for a reason to have two specific pages on them, actually giving more screenspace because I don't have the bar at the top either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I set mine to auto-hide, expand on mouse over. I hope they do that as well!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I win screen real estate. I have an abundance of horizontal space.

[–] Lodra 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been using sidebery for months now. It’s fantastic but definitely takes work to setup and hide the default tabs. As a software developer, I typically have over 100 tabs open in my browser at any given time so vertical tabs are basically a required feature for me. This is very good news that Firefox is finally supporting natively. I’ll be testing it out!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

over 100 tabs open in my browser

cries in 8GB RAM on M1 MBP

[–] Lodra 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s not as bad as it sounds. Firefox is actually pretty efficient with keeping the RAM usage low. I am running an M2 mbp with 32g but Firefox is definitely not the worst offender on my machine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Exactly! I have 860 tabs currently, browser is at 1.6GB. The tabs are not always loaded in memory, unless you have recently viewed them.

[–] Lodra 2 points 4 months ago

Kinda funny how it plays out IMO. Browser updates require restarting the app. This unloads all tabs but preserves my having them “open”. Memory stays low and we can keep basically unlimited tabs open. It’s quite nice!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

2026:

Tabs the whole bloody way round..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Vertical tabs are a good feature for modern desktop monitors. I tried it on MS Edge and Brave Browser. I have Tree Style Tabs on Firefox, but the problem I have is the horizontal tab bar is difficult to remove if for it not that is make break something during an update. Not only that, but I use Nightly as my primary browser.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I have a userchrome css to get rid of it, but it's definitely brittle over time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather have an official way to move the tabs back to underneath the address bar that doesn't involve modifying the userchrome file

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Never heard of that idea. Sounds like a slightly lazier way to do it, but I respect it. Could be easier for accessibility reasons I suppose.

Getting vertical tabs and hiding the original tab row is the only thing I have to mess with the userchrome file for myself, so this getting baked in will help me skip an extension setup and file edit every time I set it up on a new device. Or freshly setup device.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I’d love to have a second or third or N extra rows

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago