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Both Rabbit R1 users should be concerned.

these keys allow anyone to [...] brick all r1s

the rabbit team is aware of this leaking of api keys and have chosen to ignore it.

Assuming that's true, then just bricking them all sounds like it might even be the ethically correct move.

I'm shocked. Shocked I say!

the most interesting key is for elevenlabs, which gives full privileges. this allows us to:

(...) delete voices (and crash the rabbitOS backend, thus rendering all r1 devices useless)

we have internal confirmation that the rabbit team is aware of this leaking of api keys and have chosen to ignore it. the api keys continue to be valid as of writing.

So there is a chance?

aint that shit a scam?

bu they still harvest the data?

So is this now 2x scam?

we have internal confirmation that the rabbit team is aware of this leaking of api keys and have chosen to ignore it.

Lmao, I guess nobody's surprised. A scam is a scam.

we will not be publishing any more details out of respect for the users

Kind of lame, I was hoping they'd brick every r1 device just out of spite. Let it be a cautionary tale for whoever was dumb enough to buy one.

Some context on what the fuck is rabbit and r1 would have been helpful.

That could be hundred of kilobytes of data!

Sounds about right.

Typical security negligence of startups.

Your data is essentially never secure if it's sitting with a startup. It's an atrocious world for security out there.

This kills the rabbit.

That didn't take long.

Why the fuck are they using a cloud tts on an Android device??? Can't they use on device tts?? Seems extremely stupid for no reason

1. It's expensive. They are paying a fee to the third party tts provider each single time someone needs a response. They boast "no subscriptions" - that means those fees are paid only by new customer purchases. Ponzi 2.0

2. It's fucking expensive. Elevenlabs tts voices costs thousands of dollars per month plus $0.18 per 1000 characters. Ask the history of a monument and the verbose result that the LLM regurgitated costs them $0.15. Are they banking on the fact that most customers would just shelf the device after a day?

3. It's slower. Each time the device needs to reply, it needs to stream an audio file instead of a few bytes of compressed text

4. For the more realistic voices it's only cheaper in the short term. I get it - they don't like the robotic free voices and licensing a good closed source one costs money. But then you don't need to pay the "cloud" forever. Did they plan to shut down shortly after the launch? Where the money for running each user in a VM is coming out? (I saw from a YouTube video that it looked like they were using a browser automation tool in a VM)

At this point since everything is run on the cloud (=somebody else's computer) this could not only be a smartphone app, but a smartwatch app.

I wonder if they will just fold and do a rug pull now blaming the hackers or fix the problem.

Fixing the problem seems difficult for them - need to fully rewrite the app and having everything proxied through their authenticated server, increasing their expenses (and a rushed fix isn't secure/tested). But their money comes only from new investors and new customers, and at this point I doubt that they can sell more units or scam more investors.

Wow so edgy, they don't use uppercase letters

Where do I download these?

Lots of tech people who don't know or care about the r1 device are going to get a jumpscare from this post 😁

Rabbit? Like… the personal massager?

Still think those people should have gotten a playdate instead, it's more fun and certainly not less useful (which is, not at all).

(When I first heard about the r1 I immediately thought it was weird how the 2 devices looked alike, I've since learned they shared the same designers).