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    [–] [email protected] 164 points 6 months ago (24 children)

    I think most of the complaints are that Microsoft Office doesn't work. Which is true. The web version of Microsoft Office is honestly kinda terrible.

    And no, people don't want to use a product that does the same thing as Microsoft Office, they want to use a product called "Microsoft Office". No, it's not logical, and doesn't make any sense at all but it's how people are.

    [–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

    The only sense it makes is that M$ hasn't followed the spec, and so things done in office display fine in say libreOffice, but not the other way around. So if your company is willing to transition, but everyone you deal with outside the company is still on Office, there's a bit of a communication issue. That's M$'s biggest strength, homogenous work environments.

    [–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    That's why my business only uses pure, crisp .txt files. If I can't open it in notepad, I don't want it!

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I have unironically been preaching the powers of text and JSON, and have some converts. Universal compatibility is great.

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

    With markdown or asciidoctor or restext or ... you get both worlds.

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    This needs to become illegal and bear a bankruptcy inducing fine if repeatedly done.

    We need to get rid of these monopolists

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

    Pretty sure it is "illegal" I mean didn't they get dragged through court in what the 90s 00s? Specifically for anti-competative monopolistic actions. Illegal was in quotes there because nothing really changed.

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    [–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    I installed a Windows 11 update. Office no longer worked. Office refused to re-install despite trying a huge number of things. It literally refuses to install. Tried their help tool which even does removal of old references in the system. Failed 5 times.

    Tried using the web version for a simple thing. First localization struggle which doesn’t carry across sessions. Excel column formatted to number. Then to currency. Then to general. Autosum shows #Div!0 still. Tried seeing if the AI could help. Have to re-login. (Using Mozilla this whole time btw). After re-login, ai tool says stop using private mode. I’m not…

    Literally trying to do the simplest autosum on about 25 lines and it can’t function.

    Installed LibreOffice. No problem with ‘Excel’.

    I’m really not exaggerating. I saw online a similar issue and the guy had to reinstall the entire OS to get office to work again 🤨

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    [–] [email protected] 135 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    We recently got hdr support tho

    [–] starman 51 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    And lack of Adobe is a feature, not an issue.

    Linux wins again.

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    [–] [email protected] 98 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    HDR works. On KDE Wayland and in games only with Gamescope, but we are getting there. And there is the Steam Deck of course.

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    [–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    The funniest thing is, people say Linux is not ready, cause [insert feature] doesn't work. The problem is said feature doesn't work on Windows either.

    For example pausing/resuming playback across multiple appliacations using media keys. It's not perfect on Linux (not every app uses MPRIS), but it's not great on Winodws either

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    [–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago

    There's also the games trap as MS gobbles up development studios left and right. I'm guessing that's not a coincidence.

    I'm personally not a fan of Steam, but HUGE props to Valve for thinking ahead.

    [–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Last time I tried HDR on Windows, that sucked too.

    My Android TV and consoles are about the only devices where it works properly.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

    HDR games is fucking baller on the steam deck. I'm legitimately thinking of switching to kde from sway so I can take advantage of it on my new OLED monitor.

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    [–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    HDR is awesome if you have the right hardware. I've never seen a movie look so good. Someone needs to get HDR working.

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

    It works in KDE + Wayland.. mostly.. for applications that support it.. and there was this update that ruined my color profile for a while but they fixed that now!

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    [–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    You can get both on Linux. KDE Plasma 6 with Wayland supports HDR, and you can even run some Adobe apps through Wine (Photoshop on Linux, Illustrator on Linux).

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Using Adobe on Linux is a sacrilege. Screw that company.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    photoshop, illustrator, etc are genuinely good programs though. the 'linux alternatives' just arent usually as powerful or easy to use.

    this is coming from a linux and foss fanatic, btw. i dont use adobe, but i probably would if i was in a creative industry

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    [–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    I actually do use acrobat for legal document work

    It good for adding signatures and making changes to pdf format schtuff

    [–] [email protected] 64 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    what do you use for illegal documents?

    [–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

    Adobe Acrobat works for me using Bottles/Wine. Pirated and old version of course

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

    hdr support is coming tho

    • steamos already has it iirc (well, specifically gamescope)

    • kde 6 has experimental hdr support with wayland session

    • cosmic de devs promised hdr support in the first public stable release

    what i really miss is passkeys (specifically, using tpm2 to store them like windows hello does)

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    [–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (24 children)

    From my experience in Linux:

    1. Many pirated games installer doesn't work under wine (like from xatab, RG Mechanic, Razor, etc) unless you download pre-installed games like from IGG Games or you just download pirated gog games
    2. Buggy glitching games work under wine (i don't know why that happened)
    3. Many mod organizer & tools (MO, VORTEX, NMM, etc) doesn't work unless you download old version or download some sketchy dll files from sketchy website to make those programs works well
    4. Sometimes after running games under wine my system crashes like unable to restart/shutdown or failed to open some programs like dolphin, terminal, etc (maybe bc my system running on wayland)
    5. No Photoshop, After Effects, or Microsoft Office (yes....i know linux has similar programs but those suck & my workplace has standard)
    6. Hard to fine tuning some apps unless you wanna do some dirty work in YAML or XML or CONF files
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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    I'm still waiting for gimp to actually be a viable alternative program to photoshop before installing dual boot linux

    Gimp lacks photoshop features and still isn't catered towards creatives which is the main demographic of people using the software

    I'm aware of krita but it's suited as a drawing program and also lacks many of the photo editing features I would use in photoshop

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Sadly, I don't see Gimp ever competing with Photoshop. It's not necessarily a feature parity thing, nor is it a mind share thing. It's as you've said - it's not built by creatives to be the best possible tool for many types of design.

    It's truly a shame, because for years Adobe slept on different aspects of digital design, and there was a true opportunity to build a Linux-first tool that made things like Web Design so much simpler. It's an unpopular opinion, but Linux window managers have always lacked creative input. There has always either been a design-by-commitee, or a design-by-engineer feel - and this is reflected in how poor Gimp and design tools are in the Linux space.

    In reality, Linux could have the best photo editing and design-specific tooling, but sadly the tooling either lacks a creative touch, or lacks features that are truly needed to be competitive.

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I think my biggest issue with the Gimp is that it simply exists. If it didn’t exist there’d be a huge hole in the free software space and people would get together to build software to fill it. But of course there’s no guarantee that would actually produce something better.

    Maybe the real problem with the Gimp is that it’s built to scratch an itch for its own developers who are used to its bizarre UIs and workflows. For all the people I’ve seen complaining about the Gimp over the years, none have stepped up to create an alternative. I think this is likely due to the intersection between visual arts people and software engineers being extremely small (and likely most working for Adobe already).

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    I'm really glad DaVinci Resolve exists to fill the void of a proper video editor too, Kdenlive just ain't it for me.

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    The biggest problem with Linux (other than the whole "most people give up the second they see a terminal" thing) is software availability, which will hopefully improve as Linux gains market share.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I am wondering how many people give up because their exact program isn't on there.

    I get having to use Adobe software if you are an industry professional, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people who don't want to change because qbittorrent is not the same as utorrent. Or peazip is different than 7zip.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    Is fractional scaling still ass in Linux? I tried manjaro, elementary os, and Linux Mint a couple of years ago and that bugged me the most.

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    as a person who has it installed and has an OLED monitor, am not pictured. Of the few things why I haven't bothered connecting my laptop to my monitor ever yet, though it happened recently for KDE plasma

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