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[–] [email protected] 283 points 5 months ago (36 children)

Lol. This is the party they want to replace 'genocide joe' with. Well done, kids!

[–] [email protected] 87 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Yes but see, if we just sit on our hands and don't vote we won't have any responsibility for what follows! Only voting for someone who is less than ideal on this issue is a morally bad choice!

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I totally understand the point most of them are trying to make and agree with the sentiment, but they're fucking morons. 100% absolute jibbering idiots.

This is an ugly binary choice here because the United States electoral system is a steaming pile of horse shit. Do what I, your friendly neighborhood lefty, am doing and swallow your pride and vote for center right Joe Biden because he's leagues better than the dementia-addled, fascist Cheeto Benito. Then take all the disgust you've built up by voting for and living with another neoliberal corporate shill presidency and work your ass off to make sure we don't have to keep voting between Dumb and Dumber every fucking election.

Do it because we'll only be gently tiptoeing to the right under a Biden presidency, so it's less likely you'll end up in jail for discussing the "wrong" political ideology while that orange shitstained merkin would have me in jail just for writing this were it up to him. Don't make it up to him.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (29 children)

Every time I encounter the "don't vote" brigade, my first thought is that it's a Russian or Chinese troll trying to get Trump elected again.

My second thought, which is a bit more nuanced, is some introspection on what Biden is actually doing. He has three options with regards to Israel, none of them good.

  1. He could deny them weapons, which would inevitably lead to outright war with Iran and an increase in Russian influence in the region, as well as a loss of an ally.
  2. He could fully commit to Netanyahu's madness (i.e., what Trump wants to do), fully empowering genocide while using no political leverage on Israel. This would also ultimately lead to broad regional warfare, which will also likely increase Russian influence in the region.
  3. He could try to limit the damage by imposing conditions on weapons sales and attempt to thread the needle, recognizing Hamas for the grotesque terrorist organization it is while using political pressure to prevent as much needless death of civilians as possible. This is what Biden is trying to do.

I don't know that Biden is doing a very good job with #3, but #1 would be a catastrophe, and #2 is what Trump wants.

This is a shitty situation in every conceivable way. Our ally, Israel, is currently being run by a corrupt and genocidal freak. There are no good answers to a situation like that beyond Israel coming to its senses and throwing Netanyahu in prison. But there are plenty of really bad answers, and Trump would be the worst.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would like to solve your trolley problem with multi track drifting please

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago (21 children)

I'm gonna vote for Biden if I have to rise from the dead and crawl through broken glass to do so, and I hope everyone reading this thread does.

I'm not willing to pretend he's not facilitating an ongoing genocide though.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Why would you think it's a good political move to sign a bomb in such a controversial conflict. It boggles my mind who suggested that as a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 5 months ago (17 children)

The conflict is only controversial to one party.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 5 months ago

Behold, the moderate Republican.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago

The Moderate Republican, folks.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why WHY would Joe Biden sign off on providing Nikki Haley with PERMANENT MARKERS!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

An incredible oversight. How can he recover from this?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago (18 children)

Hey Nikki, why don't you use your birth name - Nimarata Nikki Randhawa?🤔

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (16 children)

These are the people that are going to be ruling America soon.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

These are the people who have been ruling America for a long time.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (8 children)

FYI: Most of those braindead “am I not allowed to criticize Biden???” comments and posts on social media are a concerted effort by right-wingers from /pol and other such sewers, trying to get people to not vote against Trump. Don’t fall for it. These aren’t “lefties” or “tankies”. Just downvote, report, and ignore.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they're involved, but a much bigger player pushing that line of reasoning is the Kremlin. They want to get Trump elected again so he cuts aid to Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

And work to undermine NATO.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Lemmy is fucking FULL of them. Every other post is some Israel / Genocide Joe bullshit.

If you didn't know any better you'd think Joe is literally flying a bomber over Gaza right now.

It's getting tiresome even down voting this crap.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (3 children)

How can they say they love Israel but also say Jews run everything and be generally negative towards Jews here?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (17 children)

"Doublethink is a process of indoctrination in which subjects are expected to simultaneously accept two conflicting beliefs as truth, often at odds with their own memory or sense of reality. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy."

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It's a common tactic with fascist regimes. Nazis used to do it with Jewish propaganda by simultaneously claiming that Jews were weak vermin that needed to be exterminated and that they are this supervillain that controls all the money.

You currently see it a lot with the people chanting "Genocide Joe" and claiming he is some mastermind warhawk with at the same time claiming that he is some feeble, senile old man. He's Schrödinger's politician!

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago

Typical republican filth.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same lady who rolls up her windows when traveling through the "bad part of town"

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Moderate by GOP standards. Moderately less of a nazi or something like that

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

She's not even that. She went full Nazi when she called for the culling of the American people. Gas chambers and concentration camps.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Uh oh, don't tell Kristi Noem...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (15 children)

See, that's why I can't vote for Biden. /s

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

She was ambassador to the UN. The Republicans and Likud together constitute the new Nazi party. Nationalist Zionists.

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