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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So their proof is that ancient Chinese dragon depictions look like dinosaurs? Well, no shit Sherlock. Ancient people find a huge dinosaur skull fossil, of course they start making up dragons.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's worse than that. Read the fine print.

They claim that all Chinese pottery was built wrong. The article says (sic) "If you Photoshop the handles to reverse the head, it looks like a Triceratops instead of a classic Chinese dragon."

Seriously. The evidence they claim is that if you digitally alter the photo, it looks like a dinosaur.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

using that logic, if you plant evidence of a crime in someone's home they are immediately guilty and then you can shoot them

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

This reminds me of somebody saying cyclops mythology comes from African elephant skulls, and I think that's interesting

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“If we digitally alter this thing then if you squint really hard and take these lead supplements for a few months then it maybe kinda looks like something else!”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

It's hilarious that they come out right and say it.

"If we Photoshop this vase, it looks like a dinosaur."

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, because dinosaurs and dragons shirley can't be from imagination or stories. Please hand me a bible so I can wrap my arms around it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

What’s your vector, Victor?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It's funny how about twenty years ago creationism was a big deal on the internet, but now the creationists are still doing their thing but the internet doesn't care anymore.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Creationists handily lost that argument, because it's so obviously wrong and deeply unpopular. They've since moved on to issues they think are more exploitable, eg dehumanizing trans folk

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Nah, it's just not extreme enough and actually not that unpopular.

A frighteningly large percentage of the US population doesn't "believe" in evolution, creationism is not that weird for them.

But for the rest: creationism is not that weird compared to flat earthers hunting down child sex trafficking pizza joints and Jewish Space Lasers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I could never understand how believers refused to believe in evolution. Even if you believe in an all-Knowing, all-powerful deity, why would you want to believe they wouldn't use all the tools at their disposal?

Having evolution at your disposal and still manually creating every living thing would be like using a pencil and paper to sum the columns in an Excel spreadsheet.

In other words, if you believe in God and don't believe in evolution, you believe in a dipshit god. Your God probably failed out of deity school.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's because that would contradict a literal interpretation of the Bible (not all Christians subscribe to a completely literal interpretation of the Bible, but most creationists do).

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

They're not able to worm their way back into schools. For now. But people shouldn't get complacent.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact: The Catholic Church, of all things, officially says the 'let the earth bring forth' bit of one of the bible's two creation stories is a poetic way to reference evolution.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ken Ham and his followers think Catholics are heretics.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

To be honest, pretty much every sect thinks that of other sects

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ken Ham from the Ark Encounter and Creation "museums". He's a special one, that Ken.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No one's going to mention humans still live with dinosaurs?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Nah, those are all drones that resemble dinosaurs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Well my parents don't like it when I call them dinosaurs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Nobody show this psycho a bloody anime mug or something. God knows what story they would come up with.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

So true, and society back then used wireless devices to communicate, as we neither found copper nor fiber optic cables. And dinosaurs (or humans back then) were time trallelers, as almost no dinosaur or human was found in the same ground layers. See? Evidence, lotsa evidence!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Its quite cold here today. Well this negates global warming so let's get back burning fossil fuels.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm not easily finding this piece of art online. Is it some Han dynasty vase with a dragon on it and the Creation museum has gone Full It's a Dinosaur They Lived Among?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are creationists done pretending dinosaur bones are fake, or has there been a schism

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The Dinosaur Bones are Fake Crowd has fallen off in recent years, they were most prominent from the 1860s to the 1980s when the fossil record was less complete and reliable than it is today. They used to cite Charle's Darwin quotes about lacking evidence religiously, quite ironically. They are always looking for some new quotes from evolutionary biologists today like Mark Ridley quoted saying we lacked enough transition fossils in 1981 but since then he's already renounced that argument and brought attention to the many new transition fossils found since then such as tiktaalik.

The problem with Dinosaur Bones are Fake arguments is that the people who make the arguments know nothing of fossils because in the process of learning about fossils they realize they were wrong. Sometimes I see a stray "Carbon Dating only goes back 50,000 years reliable and doesn't work on surface exposed objects" as if radiology would only work on specific carbon isotopes lmao.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They used to cite Charle's Darwin quotes about lacking evidence religiously, quite ironically.

I still have the passage bookmarked in my copy of Origin of Species. The local JWs used to cite it a lot when I mentioned evolution, but they've stopped, unfortunately.

Maybe the finally read the rest of the paragraph? Who knows.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I have a Darwin quote for them:

I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae [a family of parasitoid wasps] with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

after they digitally altered it, yes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Wouldn't shock me if it was in the Creation Museum and it's just a fake.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Humans and dinosaurs absolutely have coexisted. I just saw some fly past and I even have a dinosaur feeder.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When my daughter was little, I used to tell her that birds are secret dinosaurs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

It’s a great way to help kids understand that the more we learn the more majestic the world gets

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But if humans and dinosaurs lived together, then where are the dinosaurs now? Doesn't this theory imply "things are as they always have been", therefore God?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Depending on which ones you ask, they either were wiped out in the Great Flood or survived, but were recorded as dragons and died out later.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So Noah, chosen by god himself, did a shit job of collecting all the animals?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Don't ask me, I'm not here to make sense of what they say.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought she was implying they’d found evidence of pottery made by dinosaurs and given to, and used by, people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The people aren't ready for that revelation

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It's no worse than some of the stuff they spout. I'm sure someone would believe it. 😁

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

That’s it I’m sold gimme god.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would have cited the Flintstones

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

It's a living...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Fred Flintstone lived with dinosaurs.

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