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Last Week in Fediverse – ep 69\70 | fediversereport.com [Blog Article] (lemmy.world)
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https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-69/

  • Celebrating the 16th birthday of the fediverse

  • The European Commission sets up a new fediverse instance

  • bridge between the fediverse and Bluesky has been used to spam Bluesky with pro-Trump messaging

  • Three new products for the ATmosphere by Japanese developers: Video platform Bluemotion, Blogging with WhiteWind, and audio spaces with Bluecast.

  • Fediverse share button - https://stefanbohacek.com/project/fediverse-sharing-button/

UPDATE:

EPISODE 70 - https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-70/

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Fascinating how the federated Bluesky spam came from Nostr. Dorsey's lovechild vomiting crap all over his disowned brainchild. Clearly he bet on the right horse.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

The thing with replacing DeviantArt could be interesting. Sites like that - not just DA but also Fur Affinity, Weasyl, etc - have a very different philosophy about how to show your "feed":

  1. there's always a separation between images and text posts from the people you're following
  2. no reposts - instead each user has a gallery of "favorites" (essentially your likes, but it's public by default)

These two things are what makes it possible for me to discover artists on sites like these, and why I can't do the same on Twitter, Tumblr, or Mastodon. The tonal whiplash is just too distressing.

I have made a web app called Crowmask that exposes my Weasyl posts to ActivityPub, but unfortunately it's one way only for now (and single-user - I'm not prepared to take responsibility for hosting content from someone I don't know offline).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Thank you for sharing the article! Please note that this is last's weeks episode, the newest episode went out yesterday: https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-70/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Good news for the EU

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I feel like video is a Borg that assimilates every communication medium ever invented, and turns it into crap after a while. So this report doesn't excite me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Still, is good to have more channels.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I really hope the eu gets addicted to the openness and starts forcing it on other companies to ensure competition

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are some provisions in the Digital Markets Act that go in that direction. It only took effect roughly 3 months ago though, so remains to be seen if it works out as intended.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thats the whole rcs thing tho. Isnt signal WhatsApp and all Facebook messenger things use xmpp? Can we bridge them to rcs or have the alphabet bois locked that down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, the DMA has nothing to do with RCS, at least not directly.

Yes, WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger were initially just XMPP servers, but have since had proprietary expansions.

In the context of the DMA both of them will be forced to make interoperability with other third-party messengers possible, since Meta has been designated a "gatekeeper" under the new regulation. Meta has announced they plan on doing so via an implementation of the Signal protocol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This sounds like i can finally self host signal and its going to be interoperable? Or is it gatekept for only the big bois?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Signal protocol ≠ Signal messenger

AFAIK you could always have selfhosted a Signal server, you just can't interact with the "normal" Signal messenger and its network.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah exactly but will the bill allow me to interoperate?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not with Signal messenger, the company running it hasn't been designated as a gatekeeper under the DMA rules. You can see which services will be affected on the Wiki page (only WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger currently).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Right so WhatsApp and messenger are gatekeepers and they must allow interoperation with who anyone who wants to ie me running my own signal instance? They also need to interoperate with signal hence if a works with b and c works with a why wouldn't b work with c? Cos if thats hoe it works or if im not allowed to interoperate with WhatsApp or messenger in the first place then this juat seems like its handing the monopoly away from the companies to the government and giving the people fuck all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right so WhatsApp and messenger are gatekeepers and they must allow interoperation with who anyone who wants to ie me running my own signal instance?

There are several stipulations on interoperability in the new regulation (Ctrl+F "interop"). To my understanding it is stipulated that they have to make interoperability possible for certain third parties, but how to go about this is not exactly specified on a technical level - meaning the specific way to implement this is left to the gatekeeper. So your Signal server may or may not be able to depending on how exactly they go about this.

They also need to interoperate with signal hence if a works with b and c works with a why wouldn’t b work with c?

No they need to enable interoperability period. Says nothing about Signal (the software) per se. Meta has announced they plan on implementing it based on the Signal protocol (not Signal messenger software, not Signal server software).

Cos if thats hoe it works or if im not allowed to interoperate with WhatsApp or messenger in the first place then this juat seems like its handing the monopoly away from the companies to the government and giving the people fuck all.

To my knowledge the aim of the regulation is exactly that, to allow anybody interoperability with these "core platform services". The status quo is that the regulations has been announced by the EU, it has gone into effect, and Meta has announced how they will implement interoperability to comply. Once the implementation is available and then found lacking in regard to the regulation it would be up to the affected third party to sue Meta over it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So long story short can i or can i not run some software that will interoperate with all platforms stipulated in the document.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Not yet, but you probably will be able to in the future.