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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

What data are they using? If it's amount of coffee sold vs. population, at least Luxembourg is wrong. I know people who drive 2-3 times a year around 300km from Germany just to shop gasoline and coffee in Luxembourg. Both are so cheap that it's still worth it. Cause there is no tax on coffee it's 20-50% cheaper as in Germany. The same for Belgium. So germans and belgians love to buy coffee in Luxembourg.

Edit: exactly this question is written by the author of the linked article. So it is plausible that the data or the result from the data is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not bad not bad...I am near the German and Belgian border in South Limburg. I see Zika Grenzmarkt has some nice coffee prices. I was already wanting to go to Luxemburg this summer for a short trip.

Good tip, thanks Yrt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ooohhh let me tell you! Not only is the coffee and gasoline cheaper, but also champagne cause there is no champagne tax like in Germany (don't know if you have this as well). And also taxes for tobacco is lower so it's cheaper and at last: there is no "Pfand" for canned sodas/beers (great for things like festivals). But the one thing a lot more expensive in Luxembourg are clothes. That's why a lot of people living in Luxembourg love shopping in Trier (Germany).

Hope you have a nice trip :) The shopping is great at every gasstation at the boarder (they have most of the time a little shop with exactly the cheaper stuff on top), but the capital of the country is nice to visit as well :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I could be wrong, but half of the people who work in Luxembourg don't live there, so every cup of coffee they drink at work ( or buy at shops before and after work) wouldn't be counted right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That seems true. The country is very small so a lot of people can live in cheaper places like German/French/Belgian border villages. I once met a guy living in belgium and working in Luxembourg city and he needed 40min via car (and the city isn't right next to the belgian border). Same for the other countries. So yeah, I would also guess 50% of the coffee consumed shouldn't count.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As an American this is kind of wild to me. Of course, plenty of Americans live in one state and work in another, and I think they end up paying income taxes in both states (assuming both states have income tax), although there may be some deduction available for taxes paid to another state. How does this work for income taxes between the two nations?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It's a complex topic cause... it depends. I know a guy that lives in Germany and works in Luxembourg (he is the coffee delivery guy for a lot of people xD). If I remember correctly, he pays taxes in Luxembourg and has to fill out a form each year for the German tax office that he or more exactly his company is paying his taxes in Luxembourg. Cause one big thing in all the european countries I know is, that as an employee your workplace pays your salary based taxes. Most social contributions like pension payment is also a Luxembourg thing, but health care is a mixture. He pays the biggest part in Luxembourg but has to do a little extra payment in Germany, so he can visit a German doctor like someone that pays his healthcare only in Germany.

But it's different for every country.

And also another funny thing I know: The US is the only country in the world where you have to pay taxes just cause you're a citizen. No matter if you're living and/or working in the US. So for example a US citizen working and living in Germany still has to pay a (small) amount of US taxes. For example if I would work and live in Italy I would only pay taxes in Italy even though I have a non Italian passport.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Coffee not being a thing in Türkiye was a bit of a surprise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Part of it is inherent to the style. My morning cup of pourover coffee is 23 g of beans to 350 g of water. A cup of Turkish coffee is like 4 grams of beans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I know they prefer tea, but still the number seems too low

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As a Finn I'm absolutely doing my part

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Your neighbour here trying to keep pace!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

BESSER OIS DE DEITSCHN!!!!
(Sorry, germans)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Oder müder

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Sorry, germans

Naa, basst scho. Wenns'd as brauchst, I vergunn's da.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do they have coffee taps up there?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

In Sweden: Basically? At work we get unlimited coffee that just comes out of the machines and the whole thing is very tap-like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Aye. And while it may come off as hyperbole or satire, taps are really only used for the extremely high demand situations where supply simply can't keep up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Is free coffee at work not common in Europe? Most companies I’ve worked at in the U.S. offer free coffee in the workplace. How that’s offered has depended on the company. Some just have a traditional American coffee pot that runs water through grounds in a filter and it drips into a pot that holds 8-12 cups of coffee, sitting on something to keep the coffee warm. There might be two pots, one for decaf and one for regular. A common source of contention is if someone takes the last cup and does not start another pot brewing. Other companies have offered a Keurig system that functions largely the same way but brews an individual cup at a time using single-use disposable pods. This allows people more choices in coffee styles but is more expensive and generates a lot of trash.

One place I worked that was staffed 24 hours a day had some fancier coffee machines that would grind beans fresh for your cup and could produce several different styles like espresso, cappuccino, mocha, or americano, in regular or decaf. It wasn’t as good as going to an actual cafe, but for free and available any time of day or night it was pretty nice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Wörk wörk wörk Source: am German

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I thought the color scheme represented the color of the coffee itself.