Much of Indonesia outside of Bali. They have the "Wonderful Indonesia" campaign yet I don't see that many international tourists here. The fact that most non-Indonesians don't know what Indonesia is and how they think Bali is its own country is a clear indicator.
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I remember visiting a youth summit here in Canada, and the Indonesian ambassador to Canada was present. I remember he got pretty exasperated that the only thing people in attendance knew about Indonesia was Bali (and thought it was Indonesia's capital), despite being the world's fourth largest country in population. He gave us all Indomie and ginger chews though - nice guy, but he got me hooked on Indomie for much of university.
I know about where Indonesia is on a map, but I never remember that all those islands are part of the same country, or that they are so densely popular.
That's based on my slightly more familiarity with the Gulf of Mexico Caribbean islands being mostly separate nations and fewer densely populated cities.
Bhutan as there are limits on tourism imposed, and a mandatory $250 a day fee. There's a mismatch in that lots would love to visit but cannot, not because of infrastructure that I know.
Kampong Saom/Sihanoukville in Cambodia, the Chinese took over the city then abandoned a lot of the projects when the money dried up (COVID); it's like a weird ghost town/city with a skyline of half finished buildings.
Appreciate the thoughts. I'm not disagreeing with you I've heard Bhutan is debatable from a handful that have been there, simply because there's a sizable amount of tourism from India and Bangladesh. The infrastructure for getting around and staying overnight is definitely there, but the diversity of attractions is very limited as well (heavily focused around temples), so I feel like it's a bit of an edge case.
Since I heard this though, as I understand it, it appears that the freedom of movement for Indian citizens in Bhutan has been limited and the Sustainable Development Fee tax got reduced from 200 USD to 100 USD, because of how dramatically it impacted the amount of "high value tourism" they were getting.
I liked Solana Cain's new photo essay in the Globe and Mail today about Bhutan. I probably ought to put it on my radar.
Usually anywhere with civil unrest or at war. Most people would say that is obvious. But people also don't realize how quickly that can change.
I visited Egypt a few years back and it was like that. It made for a nice visit, because none of the temples, tombs etc were overcrowded, though that meant the souvenir sellers were desperate. Cairo Museum was almost empty. Our tour guide there said was going to give up and start a restaurant with some friends. She spoke several European languages and was learning Mandarin, but was struggling to make a living. She hated the Islamist revolutionaries for damaging the tourism industry.
A view of the Arab Spring: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-56000950
Yep. For example, Crimea has nice beaches and massive tourist infrastructure, but is obviously not very touristy right now.
It doesn't even need to be the place, but close enough.
I was in Jordan during the Israeli counterattack on Gaza. There were understandably protests, but beyond that the entire country was more pissed off that they lost their tourism season for the year.
I feel like the basic premise has different subgroups which vastly alters the reason why there is a ton of this infrastructure:
- Seasonal tourism
Tourists come, but only for part of the year. The most extreme example would be Mecca, which gets flooded with religious tourists for a few weeks every year. However, most seaside towns and ski spots get included as well.
- White elephant projects
The government builds something to attract tourists, and this is commonly tied an international event. The Olympics have left tons of modern ruins in its wake from governments overspending to attract tourists and gain prestige. There are also local convention centers and other projects meant to bring people in
- General decline
You had an area that was once popular, but now isn't. Atlantic City, New Jersey is a good example, it was the only place to gamble on the US East Coast and therefore had tons of casinos and hotels. With the rise in Indian gaming and cheap flights to Vegas, going to Atlantic City stopped being as popular. You could also include rust belt cities which built out decent infrastructure for a population far larger than what they have.
I feel like people haven't been going to the moon as much as they used to.