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[–] [email protected] 174 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  1. create instability

  2. profit from said instability

  3. run from said instability

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  1. get gov't contracts to rebuild after instability
[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago
  1. The project gets canceled due to incompetent government, and you keep the money
[–] [email protected] 74 points 7 months ago (1 children)

they get to fuck us over then scram to somewhere not as fucked over.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Was going to say it but my version was less concise.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (23 children)

Dear blue and white collar workers, please consider coming to Germany. We need a FUCKTON of People.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Last time I checked, even most IT jobs required you to speak German. I'm not saying this is unreasonable in Germany, but I think it might make it harder to attract a fuckton of people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

A lot of Germans speak English, depending on the region. Also, I've found that some job postings tend to over state their standards, in other words, please consider my Duolingo subscription when reviewing my application.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

If it were only so easy. We tried. You might get a work visa, but getting citizenship is damn near impossible.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I'll go but how? What do I need to move there?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://www.germany.info/us-en/service/visa/residence-visa/922288

"Persons holding a US passport may apply for their residence permit at the local immigration office (Ausländerbehörde) after arrival in Germany and without having obtained a visa prior to travelling to Germany. Please note that you need to register your new residence (Anmeldung) with the authorities (Meldebehörde) within 2 weeks of having moved to Germany. You also need to apply for your residence permit at the local immigration office (Ausländerbehörde) within the first 90 days of your stay in Germany. (...) We strongly recommend contacting the local immigration office as soon as possible after your arrival in Germany in order to secure a timely appointment.

Please note that you may only take up employment once you have been issued a residence permit explicitly authorizing such employment. You may also choose to apply for a visa prior to travel, effectively permitting employment from the first day of visa validity"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Basically you just have to find a company that will sponsor you? I work in IT. Where can I start looking? I've been to Berlin and loved it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just say the country you're arriving from is run by global terrorists who are destabilising the world in pursuit of money, you'd probably get asylum 😂

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The day another country gives asylum to USians is the day the CIA starts brain storming coup plots.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I tried. Even got a degree in German Language & Literature. Took additional language courses through the Goethe Institute in DE, etc.

Though I've spent the last twenty years as a software developer (which is classified as an Engpassberuf), I was told that the regulations would only allow me to seek work based on the skills from that degree (Berufsqualifikation).

"We already know how to speak German."

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[–] JDubbleu 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

If the pay for engineers wasn't shit I'd genuinely consider it, but getting 1/3 of my current pay to leave San Francisco ain't worth it. Especially given all my friends are here and I don't need a car.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You're forgetting all the things you don't need to pay for in Germany. Healthcare, massive insurances and rent, could even forgo a car with the great public transport and work from home. Might even have more left over at the end of the day than if you were to live where you live now.

An engineer living in Germany really doesn't have it bad at all.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Y’all need engineers? Also y’all deal with that AfD problem yet?

Seriously though, my family left Germany a generation too soon for me to claim citizenship. I would be a dual citizen otherwise

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (10 children)

There's no downside if you can do it and extreme wealth is only a requirement if some of the many offers don't apply to you. Spain was basically giving away citizenship a few years back. Bulgaria is pretty open.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I've lived in the US for quite a few decades, but I'm still a German citizen. When asked why I don't take US citizenship, I give a three-part answer:

  1. I don't believe you can owe allegiance to two different entities at the same time.
  2. Between a German EU passport and a US Green Card, I can travel almost anywhere in the world.
  3. I f I ever run into legal troubles, first call is to the wife, second goes to the embassy.
[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (8 children)

This is a personal decision but I think it's better to be pragmatic about it. If your country of origin permits dual citizenship I'd do the naturalization simply because it gives you more flexibility. It's a more secure status, no need to worry about renewing or spending longer periods abroad. And you get to vote of course.

Citizenships and passports are bureaucracy and they don't define who you are, that comes from your heart. I'd look at it as a practical matter.

My understanding is that Germany is looking to start permitting dual citizenship later this year.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can I ask why you live in the US when you could live in Europe?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's a long story for another time.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

There is a downside to US Citizenship for some though, as one of the only countries on earth yo demand you pay taxes on income earned outside the country

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

demand you pay taxes on income earned outside the country

Good thing the super wealthy don't have legally-defined income to be taxed!

..No, wait. Not good. The opposite of good.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think Portugal will basically sell you a passport for a €250,000 investment. I don't know about Spain. I had Spanish residency years ago but moved away and let it slip, residency was pretty easy to get back then. I'd fuckin love to have an EU passport.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago

Worried about the increasing instability that they fucking created with their sociopathic levels of wealth seeking.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Speaking of instability, I'm actually baffled at Canadian government.

They didn't try to attract US and UK companies to set up offices in Canada when many people in those countries were worried about Trump presidency and Brexit, respectively.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

From what I remember, Canada did implement a digital nomad program aimed at tech workers at the start of the Trump presidency. I'm not sure how successful it was though

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I'm gonna go on a limb and say 'not very'.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

The instability they funded politically so they could get more tax breaks, profits and suppress labor.

They got theirs. Set the place on fire while they run off to wherever like Ted Cruz when things get a little uncomfortable.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

Reminds me of an old writing prompt.

Humanity spread into the stars. They're generally quite kind and helpful and treat all worlds as important. But occasionally they'll ignore uniquely made human ships. When asked about it, most humans just say "The powerful abandoned Earth after nearly killing us. Now we're returning the favor"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Super weird to read this having emigrated right after RBG died. Like, I'm not rich I just read the room.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I visited her grave in Arlington. Nothing crude, just a low, under my breath “god dammit ruth…”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

That's quite fair.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

Ironic given they all bankrolled and fought for what is creating said instability...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

God forbid the rich have to live in the world they made.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

As I've said for a while, anyone with more than two brain cells and the means, is leaving the USA or planning to leave quickly right at the edge of disaster.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Causing the house fires by supporting republicans then fleeing when it gets too hot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

If you have enough money you didn't need a passport..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Oh then we can do like India and switch out the currency after they abscond with a large percentage of it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The top destinations for supplemental passports among Americans are Portugal, Malta, Greece and Italy, according to Henley & Partners.

Duly noted.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

"We have ONE passport, yes. What about second passport?"

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