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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is a personal decision but I think it's better to be pragmatic about it. If your country of origin permits dual citizenship I'd do the naturalization simply because it gives you more flexibility. It's a more secure status, no need to worry about renewing or spending longer periods abroad. And you get to vote of course.

Citizenships and passports are bureaucracy and they don't define who you are, that comes from your heart. I'd look at it as a practical matter.

My understanding is that Germany is looking to start permitting dual citizenship later this year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Citizenships and passports are bureaucracy and they don’t define who you are, that comes from your heart. I’d look at it as a practical matter.

You sound like my wife before I gave in and we got a marriage license. I don't need a fucking shaman or some civil servant in a black weird dress to legitimize our relationship.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I felt/feel the same way. Still got married to my wife for legal reasons. Her mother is insane and if something happened to my wife, we don't want her getting power of attorney, nor do we even want her in the hospital if it can be avoided.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're not legitimizing your relationship, they're granting accesss to legal rights.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They are saying you get X rights if you have Y status. Where Y is your legally recognized relationship with a person.

It is understood that if my wife can't make a medical decision and one has to be made I can repeat what her wishes would have been. Why is that? Because we are married? Why does being married matter? Because it is a relationship? Why does that differ from any other relationship? Because it is a legitimate one.

This whole process is the government or some religion saying this relationship between two people is a special exception from the rules governing regular relationships.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Other relationships are legitimate, they just aren't legally recognized by the government. You can make a contract that gives anyone rights to medical decision-making.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cool. So there was never once in history laws that regulated say unmarried people living together? Remind me what was going on in Loving v. Virginia.

How about immigration? Do you think you are going to sponsor a person you aren't legally married with just because you two are in love?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

You say cool but you don't seem chill to me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That’s fair, I did however need some shaman to give my wife healthcare. Thankfully anyone can be one these days