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Listening to a recent episode of the Solarpunk Presents podcast reminded me the importance of consistently calling out cryptocurrency as a wasteful scam. The podcast hosts fail to do that, and because bad actors will continue to try to push crypto, we must condemn it with equal persistence.

Solarpunks must be skeptical of anyone saying it’s important to buy something, like a Tesla, or buy in, with cryptocurrency. Capitalists want nothing more than to co-opt radical movements, neutralizing them, to sell products.

People shilling crypto will tell you it decentralizes power. So that’s a lie, but solarpunks who believe it may be fooled into investing in this Ponzi scheme that burns more energy than some countries. Crypto will centralize power in billionaires, increasing their wealth and decreasing their accountability. That’s why Space Karen Elon Musk pushes crypto. The freer the market, the faster it devolves to monopoly. Rather than decentralizing anything, crypto would steer us toward a Bladerunner dystopia with its all-powerful Tyrell corporation.

Promoting crypto on a solarpunk podcast would be unforgivable. That’s not quite what happens on S5E1 “Let’s Talk Tech.” The hosts seem to understand crypto has no part in a solarpunk future or its prefigurative present. But they don’t come out and say that, adopting a tone of impartiality. At best, I would call this disingenuous. And it reeks of the both-sides-ism that corporate media used to paralyze climate action discourse for decades.

Crypto is not “appropriate tech,” and discussing it without any clarity is inappropriate.

Update for episode 5.3: In a case of hyper hypocrisy, they caution against accepting superficial solutions---things that appear utopian but really reinforce inequality and accelerate the climate crisis---while doing exactly that by talking up cryptocurrency.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago
  • “But they don’t come out and say that, adopting a tone of impartiality.”

  • “… nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’” —Isaac Asimov

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I totally agree solarpunk and crypto should be separate.

however just talking about power usage - chains using “proof of stake” us something like 99.9% less power than “proof of work”. Ethereum (PoS) vs (Bitcoin) PoW power usage for example

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (9 children)

There is so much misinformation here, it's hard to know where to even start. Yes there are crypto scams, yes legacy technology consumes way too much energy.

These are all solved problems, but it you only know about crypto from scams you might think there is nothing else. Crypto solves real problems with our current financial systems.

Wouldn't hurt to read from time to time. Solar Punk is as much about technology, as it is about knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (16 children)

Where's the solutions? Don't say "proof of stake"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Proof of steak.

Prime rib only.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Crypto is cypherpunk not cyberpunk.

You can create new alternative economic systems outwith existing monetary systems. Global mutual credit, local exchange trading systems, etc. There are plenty of solarpunks and leftists in crypto and have been since the start.

[–] jeremyparker 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately an economic system is only as useful as its buy-in, and that's the hard part. If you want you fight financial hegemony, don't give wealthy people another lever of control.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Solarpunk Presents Podcast is on Mastodon: @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I own Bitcoin and solar panels. The two technologies don't have to be enemies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't have to be a wasteful if it's generated with clean energy. It doesn't have to be a scam, either. Just because it is those things IRL doesn't mean it has to be in fiction.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (6 children)

But that energy could be used for anything else. Those chips could be used for anything else.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Instead of computing hashes you show proof how much of the sun’s energy you harvested this transaction block.

Boom I just solved blockchain and green energy. You’re welcome.

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