Tesla

Points out the obvious

Journalism.

You're paying Mercedes prices for Lada tier QA.

And with every brand in Europe and Asia now having quality EV models going the whole spectrum of sizes, Teslas just don't compete by anything other than its name anymore. And with better long term respected brands being available as EVs and Musk taking Teslas reputation down with him, only die hard Musk simps will still buy Tesla.

If I want to buy an EV that might have reliability and QC issues Ill buy a chinese one for 1/3 of the price.

They certainly have plenty of lofty ambitions but have spectacularly failed to deliver on any of them ever since the Model Y launch. It's fair to assume that a lot of that is due to the CEO piddling away his time in idiotic culture wars rather than do his actual job. Having said that, I think at this point Musk's brain has completely turned to mush from all the drugs, so even if he tried, he wouldn't be much use.

Almoat every car maker out there makes constant changes to their products, releasing new editions or overhauls of existing cars year over year. Some smaller car companies, like luxury or hyper car makers, may take a few years between new models. Tesla is the only car company that is using the same hardware and designs from over a decade ago. Phones have evolved more than Tesla designs, and that shit hasn't significantly changed since touchscreens emerged.

And that's just their cars. Electrical systems like solar tiles and on-site battery systems are the same as when they were released, with the exception of Power Wall getting a lateral update between Power wall 2 and 3.

Tesla is devoid of innovation and has given up on QA to sell as much as they can before the company is considered obsolete and irrelevant.

Damn that rivian looks nice.

I wouldn't buy a BMW either.

I'd drive one for free, but I'd have to put a bunch of lefty bumper stickers on to make it clear I don't support Musk.

Hey now, as an aspiring megalomaniac even I don't want to be associated with him.

It's still a status symbol, it's the meaning of that symbol that's changed. Used to be cool, now it means you support a man-child that dead names his own trans kid.

I'm not following this stuff too closely but didn't some other manufacturer just come out with electric sales numbers that are way better?

Absolutely. I think a big factor in the drop of demand last quarter was the end of the full $7,500 tax credit.

Since August last year there has been this doom and gloom coverage of electric car sales in the media. That may be making potential buyers get concerned about purchasing an EV at this moment. Self fulfilling prophecy.

Elon’s behavior is definitely playing a role as well. I think that at the end of the day he is just trying to cater to conservatives to expand the consumer base. But the plan is backfiring by alienating progressives and not converting conservatives into consumers.

There are plenty of external factors but Musk's behavior certainly plays a part. The target audience of EVs (at least in the West) ist still predominately "liberal" (whatever that means) people who will not be very impressed by his amplifying some of the most vile people on earth.

He used to. He still does, but he used to, too.