Australia

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I live in the US and I've never been in a house or apartment with a gas stove. Maybe they're more common up north where they use gas for heating.

We don’t have nuclear power plants and we still have a stable grid ;-)

Yeah you burn coal, idk why you had to mention nuclear when their issue is that their grid is horrendously mantained becasue of greedy corporations.

You also have a 99% literacy rate and invest heavily in your education sector.

Induction stoves are great to cook with, I'd say they are better than gas for almost everything. Probably a wok is the only one most people will have an issue with, and having been stuck with an old electric coil stove in the past and managing to make decent stir-frys I really don't think that moving to a flat bottomed wok on an induction stove should be a deal breaker.

Induction is way better. You'll learn to use it in less than 5 minutes. The responsiveness is way faster, and depending on your stove, much easier to set levels too.

Here's a crash course in using an induction stove: it make metal hot

I wish apartment dwellers could even get solar panels

I got a quote yesterday for panels on my roof (in the US). $43,000. Fucking ludicrous

They are quite cheap in Australia, especially combined with subsidies.

I agree it would be good to be able to harness this sort of BS tactic, but I think part of the problem is that the people who generally use these tactics just don't give a shit about what's true. The other thing is that conservative groups and businesses tend to have a lot more money and control over media platforms that left wing groups do, so it's much easier to spread their message.

Like the gas stove shit (in the US). How simple was it for Fox News, etc., to get millions of people who had no opinion on gas stoves whatsoever minutes earlier, to suddenly be willing to die to preserve their right to own gas stoves against some faceless enemy who is, in their addled minds, coming to their home to forcibly take their stoves away?

You already pointed it out, you just aren't quite touching on the difference. These conservative morons (the ones being fed, not the ones preaching the message) are quite gullible and short-sighted. They operate on emotion, not reason.

The reason Left-leaning people aren't susceptible to such rhetoric is because they're more in control of their faculties. We may get worked up and emotional. We may fall victim to bad information. But we aren't driven entirely by the id.

ETA: Capitalism is built on lies. Tobacco industry lied for decades. Fossil fuel industry has lied for decades. Muskrat has lied for a long time, but I don't know how long (and don't care to check).

Where are the leftists with these tactics? Are we all collectively just too ethical for that kind of dirty shit?

Well for one thing in Australia they're not trying to reduce the voter turnout, because failing to show up at the polling booth on election day is a crime in this country (you don't have to vote... but you do have to turn up at the polling booths, or use one of the alternatives available for people who can't do that).

Ditto to Tasmanians

Or California or New York or Pennsylvania or or or.

I had no power for 5 days in the last ice storm. Luckily I still had gas, which mean warm water and showers, as well as the ability to cook on my gas stove.