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[–] [email protected] 110 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Linux users and Wayland users

Linux users with X11 users

Linux users with GNOME users

Linux users with KDE Plasma users

Linux users with Systemd users

Linux users with openrc users

Linux users with snaps users

Linux users with flatpak users

Linux users with appimage users

Linux users with native packages users

Linux users and Ubuntu users

[–] ICastFist 42 points 8 months ago

Linux users and Arch users, btw

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Linux users with Emacs users

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Linux users with Hannah Montana users

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You Linux users sure are a contentious people.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You've just made an enemy for life!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Apparently it was already that way, before the comment - or do Linux users love the /dev/null?

After writing that, they probably do... I'm not sure where I stand any more

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a linux user, can confirm.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a Linux user Fuck you /j

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As another linux user fuck you both

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As yet another Linux user fuck all of you!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

We have to compensate for the real thing somehow, don't we?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

As another Linux user fuck you all.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like how this implies that Groundskeeper Willie uses Linux.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What you think he’s running Windows 11 with an Office 365 subscription in that tool shed of his?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (26 children)

Technically nVidia chose that fight, not Linux users. nVidia is chocked full of proprietary implementations meant to bog down competition, for example all CUDA technology including translation layers are technically illegal to even look at without nVidia proprietary drivers. All alternatives are free open source, afaik.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I agree, but that's what a linux user would say...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, I'm not a Linux user and I say that as well. Nvidia does not just not care about Linux, they actively try to act against their open source driver implementation and working with an Nvidia graphics card on Linux is much harder than using the alternatives.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago

They ruined Linux!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (6 children)

nano is better than vi, change my mind.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There's nothing to change. Nano is better designed, but vi is a more powerful tool.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Nah, micro is the superior option! 😜

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Why we have to care much about software usage. This is the current issue of linux communities, which decrease user qualities.

Our enemy Microsoft and other "big tech" laugh people like these. They are using linux just like they use windows, even bring the bad, flawed windows culture to linux.

Don't let the enemy to laugh at us.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (6 children)

even bring the bad, flawed windows culture to linux

Infighting is on the Unix culture since it left the Bell Labs. Or maybe even sooner.

But the only real enemy of that set is NVidia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

@[email protected]

Linux is just a tool, like a hammer or a 3-d printer. Getting dander up over someone's choice of tool is wasted energy.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Hate the irrational hate for Nvidia, Wayland or some desktop . I'm just out here trying to help others figure out their problem and some asshole comments"Nvidia doesn't work on wayland", "just get an amd card", "Wayland will never work" or "gsync doesn't work in Linux with multiple monitors".

All of them are equally absurd, the last one largely true on xorg for any GPU. Xorg doesn't do mixed frame rates. Also it doesn't help the person who is using an Nvidia card because there are solutions for most issues. Those issues are just not well understood because there was a time Nvidia drivers just didn't work on wayland etc.

I hate gatekeepers and purist that just make anyone who might be new to the platform feel attacked or alienated. No one cares about your ideologies if they're not asking and the idiots that parot it doesn't prove anything other than your part of the loud minority. Just being kind to one another and being understanding of other peoples decisions can go a long way to growing a healthy supportive community.

I'm still a little frustrated about the behavior of people when I was trying to help someone setup hardware video acceleration in their browser. And another that wanted to use a different distro but found Nvidia worked best on arch for him.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I am going to continue to tell people "just get an AMD card", but only if they have indicated to me that they are shopping for new parts and haven't committed to any yet.

Giving that advice to someone who already has an Nvidia card is just as useless as those StackOverflow answers that suggest you dump your whole project architecture and stuff some big dumb library into your build to solve a simple problem.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Nvidia has created a bit of a sore spot for many Linux Developers and thus users. Through their actions and non actions made it impossible to create FOSS drivers for their hardware that work well and are integrated and tested with the rest of the system.

Many fresh users don't seem to recognize the reason why they are having a sub par experience using their hardware is Nvidia and not the open source community. They often blame and complain to the developers of the open source drivers or applications, who either have to hack around hurdles placed by Nvidia or cannot inspect closed source drivers written by that company.

It is IMO understandable that at some point the community stops providing free and unpaid customer support for hardware and software, they have no control over or don't even own.

If you would start paying them, then I suspect you might get better answers. Otherwise you just get information about stuff people are excited about.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

As a developer, I really don't like how Wayland has fractured the ecosystem. Competing immature protocols are still all over the place while the immobility of x11 has spoiled us for years. It's getting better, but in the meantime I can still write an x11 app which will work mostly everywhere (thanks to xwayland), whereas a wayland app may not work everywhere (not on X11, and not on compositors which don't implement the right combinations of protocols).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

As a user I like no screen tearing, low latency, no soft locks from apps crashing, no softlock when a window is capturing the keyboard while the screen is locked, no weird artifacts from hardware accelerated effects, no app windows blanking out and lagging usually web apps (still happens in XWayland),etc.

I still miss being able to kill the screen locker from the terminal, made me feel like a hacker.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Linux users and Fromsoft fanboys seem to be cut from the same cloth "Just get gud."

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They ruined the Year of Linux!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

You've just made a bootloop for life!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Windows isn't Linux's brother !

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

yeahhh ngl windows mac nvidia linux mint ubuntu fedora and debian all suck

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (12 children)

This list is accurate except for Debian. Debian can do no wrong.

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