Is there any kind of tourism where you can drive around in a big land rover with a South African guide and like, see these people in the wild? I'm like 40% convinced that most of the sov-cit things we see are just, staged, maybe another 40% convinced that yes, western society has degreaded to this level of idiocy, and maybe a final 20% interested in spying on these people irl through a large telephoto lens. Like I just want to be a fly on the wall in the meeting with the bank where they offer their 10 silver coins.
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I had a coworker who was a legit sov-cit. I don't know how much he practiced it but he definitely made arguments you didn't need a drivers license to 'travel'. He was also super big into bitcoin and also a legit flat-earther.
It honestly amazes me that they don't understand that you have every right to "travel" without a car.
10 silver coins? is this the fuckingmiddle ages?
At a certain point, you got to realize that trolls have infiltrated these groups and are giving terrible advice for the lulz.
They are doing good work lmao. Those sovcit idiots would fall for the dihydrogen monoxide prank, I bet
These details start to make all this make sense. This stupidity is being monetized. Somebody out there is selling silver coins (no doubt at a significant markup from the price of silver. If they're silver at all). Dumb as it seems that someone things they can buy a house for 10 silver coins, people fall for stupid conspiracy shit all the time. In this case it's self-sustaining because it's being driven by the ones making money off it
Paying national currency for silver coins so you don’t have to use your national currency. 2,000,000 IQ move
You should be able to purchase a home with 10 silver coins...
Sure grandma, let's get you to bed
Homeowner: I paid $100k for my home 2 years ago. Unfortunately, I need to relocate soon and the market is down, so I'm expecting to take a net loss on the house. I'll probably be lucky to sell for $90k now. Fortunately, I've saved well and should be able to handle the difference to cover the remainder of the mortgage as long as I'm able to sell above $85k.
Sovereign Citizen: I'm buying your house now. Of course, I have the money to meet the requisite forever-set price to buy any home, i.e. 10 silver coins (approximate value of $230). I have 2 witnesses and 2 recording secretaries (gestures to 4 randos behind him, 2 of whom are scribbling on notepads). Now by the ancient, magical, twisted laws of this land that only like 11 of us understand, this house is mine. Please vacate immediately and leave the deed.
Homeowner: I'm ruined.
Out of curiosity, are those numbers real somewhere in the US, or just a random example? Because houses went for $1m+ in my area 2 years ago and the market has been constantly going up since then.
Yes, there are areas of the US where those numbers are potentially real. Some of those houses will have multiple bedrooms, updated interiors, and land attached to them for less than 100k. The only catch is that you will have to live in rural bumfuck Oklahoma or somewhere similarly tyrannical and backwards.
If houses are going for $1m+ then you live in a desirable area. I'm in California where housing costs are insane and so many people are threatening to leave never actually do. Maybe housing costs would go down if they actually followed through, but at the end of the day, people really want to live here.
I mean, yes, those numbers are realistic in my area. They're not going to be stellar homes at 100k. Either old, small, or in disrepair (or a combination of those), but they do exist.
From my own experience in my general area, the further away from the metro areas, the better the housing prices. I bought my first 3 bedroom home 8 years ago at 130k, and it was less than 10 years old and a pretty decent single story home. But that was an hour or more to any big city from there.
More recently we bought our current home about 20 minutes from a big city and the prices are probably double for the same level of home in this area. Ours was almost 400k this time, but also an overall better and bigger home. 4 bedrooms, 3.5 bath, 2 story with finished basement, 2 car garage. Though in fairness, there were nicer homes in the area for the same price or even about 50k cheaper but they were in a worse school district and had HOA fees.
There are nicer homes in our neighborhood that are in the ~$1 million dollar realm, but they're big luxury homes.
Also housing prices have dropped in the last couple years around here, but that's only compared to stupid inflated prices they were 2 years ago. In our area in 2022, people were asking for 150% percent the price on homes they bought in 2019-2020 and getting it. Now they're averaging about 12-25% less than that, probably.
I bought mine for $95k like 6 years ago. But it looked like a crack den, had nicotine tar dripping from the walls, and is entirely uninsulated in Minnesota so that might have something to do with the price.
Today it's worth $120k on the low end and it still looks like a place where people turn into missing persons (I did fix the nicotine tar issue though). I live in a pretty damn low COL area so if my house is worth that much then I don't imagine that you'd be able to find a house for $90k anymore anywhere unless it's a meth factory on top of a superfund site or something.
Lol hi I'm going to give you 10 coins for your house now fuck you go be homeless
Also, 10 silver coins is like 300 bucks...
And those are BIG coins.
Those would be big yeah. They'd be 40 grams each, to be exact (if we use your assumed 300$ worth and current silver value).
A US quarter is 5.6 grams. The 20cnt euro coin is 5.7g.
I have a massive metal POG slammer from my childhood and that's 30 grams.
at the current price of silver ($735/kg) you'd need coins a bit over 136kg per $100,000
Da fuq is a land patent?
Hah tell me you don't have 10 silver coins and 2 witnesses without telling me you don't have 10 silver coins and 2 witnesses
Don't forget the 2 recording secretaries
FUCK
Hah tell me you don’t have 2 recording secretaries without telling me you don’t have 2 recording secretaries.
Did they just admit to tax fraud?
You bet lol
How big are those coins? I mean if they're really big and pure, could be worth.
I support the permanent price fixing of homes at 2 silver coins.
Fuck I’ll give them 10gp if they’ll trade me their house. They can go on to buy a hundred houses and I’ll only be down about $3k. Win for everyone right.
Fuck I’ll give them 10gp
Congrats, you somehow made them even more ridiculous by writing it as gp.
Sometimes I think people can't possibly be this dumb.
Wait until you find out about flat earthers.
More than dumb, this is clinical insanity.
You're an admin, isn't sovcit amateur hour to you?
Yes, but sometimes I disconnect for long enough to forget and have some sort of hope in humanity.
Doesn't last too long usually.
At this point I'm curious if the people responding are just trolling them.
My friend and I are but most of them seem pretty serious.
The picture of the commenter looks like a terrible AI generated image. These people are nuts.
It sounds like someone trolling them.
How would we know??