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RIP Gamestream?

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

I mean, cool, they're finally replacing Geforce Experience, one of the worst pieces of software ever made.

But they're replacing it with shit that commits all the same crimes. Locally run webserver hosting web interfaces and a website running in a packaged Chrome accesses. Instead of something utterly wild like oh I don't know, actually building a piece of software not a web page!

Also it still commits the cardinal crime of letting 11y old me do the design and what I thought was "COOOOOL!", instead of just, you know, looking like an app. In the design language of the OS. Which would be wild, I know.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hey at least you won't have to sign in anymore just to get automatic driver update checking.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

That is true. I will say, even with all the features dropped, this is a step in the right direction.

It's a small one overall, but credit where credit is due, this shows promise. Just wish the underlying architecture were better, it's still based on the packaged chrome thing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

But being forced to create an account for basic software features is my favorite part!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You need an account for update checks? Yet another stupid NVidia antifeature that NVCleanstall saves me from, I guess...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

I fucking work in web development, and I’d rather a UI for a desktop app be built in a native coding framework.

It doesn’t even connect well to all the system level shit it needs to do. EA’s app had a million issues with this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If they're replacing GeForce experience.... Is that going to break moonlight?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By itself, yes. GameStream is EOL. And this is said end, it seems.

Your replacement option is Sunshine, or switching to using a steam link setup.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shit that what I meant to put. Will this affect Sunshine?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not for me, no. Sunshine is already the open re-implementation of the gamestream component of Geforce Experience.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

one of the worst pieces of software ever made

That's kind of an understatement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Hey, Logitech G-Hub is bad too!!

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

How about just let us download our fucking drivers through a regular package manager like all our other updates you privacy raping shit gibbons?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Definitely better than GeForce Experience but not exactly what I'm talking about either.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

At least you can still download just the driver. Its literally just bloatware from your graphics card manufacture.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Good, I've unchecked movies experience so many times

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can try, but those assholes will keep trying to get your data

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Just on install, the legal stuff you need to accept is just creepy af. Next time i will get a AMD graphics card, it has a lot more open drivers ( especially because i am a linux user )

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if your GPU drivers just updated through your package manager. We could have so much automated shit but Nvidia needs tk collect your personal data so heres a web page disguised ss an app. I fucken hate this shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, they do on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Only WHQL drivers though and it's slow to get onto the WSUS catalog

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

if nvidia spent as much time on their drivers as they do on their failed software attempts the drivers might actually work

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Geforce Experience had a non-zero percent influence on my choice to go radeon this time around. I doubt this replacement would fare any better, by the sounds of things.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nvidia experience has gotten so bad that I actually download drivers manually from the site again. It should not take 3+ minutes to start a program that does virtually nothing and THEN make me login to even fucking use it - just to update the driver.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm using NVCleanstall, it let's let's you configure exactly what components you want installed or not. Can even choose not to install the HDMI audio driver if you don't have a need for it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Their normal installer allows the hdmi to be removed too, was so happy when I discovered that because I want my monitor to act as speakers exactly never

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I don't even use this app on my windows install. As soon as it made me log in I just uninstalled it. Why the fuck would I need to enable data collection to tweak the video card I bought off them? It's bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Using the Radeon software is such a good experience. I never had any issues with it or the driver, they are looking clean, are responsive and actually helpful.

Hope that you get a similar experience, for how expensive Nvidia is it should be mandatory to have a good software...

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

I never realized how stupid GeForce Experience was until I built a PC for someone and realized I'd have to explain to them that they need to register an account on a special software just to keep their GPU driver updated.

Even with the insanity of Nvidia on linux, all I have to do is sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia once and let dnf handle updates automatically.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is it another electron app?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

With 10x the tracking, and "AI" to scan your files to help "optimize" your experience?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Fucking finally. Their current one is trash.

Hope they also add overclocking and stuff too, like in AMD's control panel. And remove the telemetry bs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

The RTX HDR is fucking lit, especially on emulators cause reshade HDR just was, alright.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Any recommendations for fine tuning Sunshine to match Nvidia's local Gamestream? I haven't had much luck in getting Sunshine to run as smoothly at 4K 120Hz HDR 150Mbps via LAN as Nvidia's deprecated streaming server software, so have to slow to migrate over.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Sunshine/Moonlight should perform better than Gamestream at the default settings.Try turning down your bitrate. 4K will work fine at 100Mbps.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Uh sunshine is usually MORE performant, not less. I would suggest heading to the Moonlight/Sunshine discord server and requesting help there.

Personally I have no issues streaming 4k@60 150mbps on a wired connection with moonlight and sunshine. Would try @120 if I had a display that supported it lol

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Gamestream was already killed, no? I had to install Sunshine to carry on using Moonlight on my Nvidia Shield.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Great...now I need an account just to set my display resolution. How long until the 4k setting costs 5$ a month?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Please drink verification can to continue.

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