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Alabama’s supreme court ruled embryos are ‘extrauterine children’. IVF patients are worried
(www.theguardian.com)
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If you’re quoting Bible to justify your shitty laws, you must also prove breaking of those laws using technology from the era when Bible was written. No more ultrasounds, no more fetal heartbeat detection, no more DNA tests to prove that “person” belongs to a specific woman.
Fuck these backward assholes
They're not quoting the Bible to support this, because the Bible doesn't say anything to oppose abortion. They're just making shit up
In fact, the bible doesn't recognize a baby as life until birth, and supports abortion under various circumstances
I believe there's even a description of a kind medicine that a woman gets administered after a rape. According to how it's described it's kind of vile and not without risk, but it's old school birth control.
They're invoking the Bible to try and lend legitimacy to their bullshit opinions.
Madison, Alexander Hamilton, and John Jay were the three main authors of the U.S. Constitution and The Federalist Papers.
Many of these right-wing, theocratic judges belong to The Federalist Society.
How the f**k can they reconcile one with the other?
None of them actually give a shit about what our government was founded on. They just want their theocracy. Federalist Society stooges are privileged incurious fools who think they know everything already.
I don't think that sex can be determined until after the 7th week. Did Alabama just embrace non-binary identifications for children?
All IVF patients now have 38 dependent children which should help with state taxes.
No actually. They let the bill proposing to make unborn children dependents on your taxes die. So we get all the punishments, and none of the benefits.
Fairly certain a child gets benefits and if an egg is a child…. This ruling would change any previous legislation I assume
Wait, what? Are they trying to make Florida look moderate by comparison?
Alabama always has.
Gilead, here we come
If you take the most literal interpretations of the typical Christian Bible to the kinds of extremes these kinds of people want to, then they can make the argument that every single time people have sex that doesn't result in a successful childbirth, it's murder.
There's plenty of verses around stuff like "seed" that can be super abused and removed from context.
Even in context, they’re pretty bad.
In context, the Bible explicitly gives instructions for an abortion.
Specifically for when the woman has "been unfaithful," or the man merely suspects it, much less a rape victim or any of a dozen other factors.
It also clearly defined life as beginning with the first breath.
The fundamentalists are just lying about this. As always.
Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood...
I don’t see IVF ever being performed in Alabama again. It’s sad, because a lot of hopeful couples will never get to have children because the state is run by lunatics.
Going this hard-core I guess the death penalty would be next.
“No no, silly heathen. The death penalty is for sinners, and unborn babies are without sin.”
They have zero interest in capital punishment reform.
Uh original sin? Not a biblical scholar but us heathens were taught to read. Guess we remove that in future cause banning books gonna help us. …slides open drawer
That would only happen if they weren't a bunch of raging hypocrites
So if you pay to have them saved, then you decide you’re not interested in children anymore and you destroy them, are you going to jail for murder?
Of course not.
The clinic workers will. You're on the hook for being an accomplice.
"ordering a contract killing".
Even if you have children. If you have 15 fertilized embryos, this would mean you’d have to get all 15 implanted. Good luck.
Got one implanted successfully and threw away the others? 14 counts of first degree murder.
Well, if you fertilize it, and it fails…. Murder. X15 failed attempts. Yikes.
Even "success" is ridiculously scary.
Fifteenuplets?!
Okay, so you can claim wellfare for your child minutes after you know you are pregnant, right?
Right...?
Alabama about to create a new kind of theft. Couple's embryos about to get stolen and implanted in young Christian girls who got dupped into believing the embryos are screaming to get born and that it makes God mad.
If embryo's are extra-uterine children then so is jizz.
The article is pretty tame. No mention of the bible verse used to justify this, or mention that this has implication for contraception as well.