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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But why is it not a German keyboard layout?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It is, I'm using it: https://www.neo-layout.org/

It is just not able to break the habit of typewriter compatibility.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They were asking why the heatmaps pictures in OP were not superimposed on a German keyboard layout.

They were not asking why no one has made a keyboard layout out of the heatmaps data :)

Just thought I'd clarify because you're basically having two different conversations at this point

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Ups, I see my confusion. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

That one is fitting the pictures even less

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

German layout is QWERTZ while English is QWERTY and your neo layout is neither

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I know, but it used the above heatmap to optimize for speed by putting the hottest keys for German on the baseline. It is not the standard keyboard, I learned to use it decades ago when I was a little German high school nerd and had too much time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A million words doesn't sound like a lot

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

To clarify, it is not the total number of words but rather the number of unique words considered. Imho a million of unique words is okay. A bigger concern for me would be that words on Wikipedia can be overly specific.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

That million words sounds like a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Have you considered a similarity search approach? They would handle your oddly specific synonym issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I only have a prespellechecked list of words from here: http://www.aaabbb.de/WordList/WordList_en.php

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

every word in one single picture:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

It's incomplete, as you will only finde 95% of words used on ich_iel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

A,
A-a,
Aachen,
...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A source: https://deykun.github.io/diffle-lang/de?p=about-language (It has tooltips displaying percentages for other letters)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Anzahl der Buchstaben in einem Wort

(Number of letters in a word)

For this metric, Wikipedia might not be a representative dataset. Wikipedia uses many technical terms and composite words which tend to be longer than words that are more common in an everyday dialect.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Kryptographiekurs flashbacks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Und Glücksrad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There were some comments on Reddit suggesting that cutting the dataset at 15 and removing 40% of words was not the best move. I have locally built a version with the limit set to 30.

For the interested:
https://imgur.com/a/Rz7Cw6x

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Great project! I really like your design language! Though it would be nice if there was a dark mode and if it supported prefers-color-scheme.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. It should read prefers-color-scheme. I have dark mode by default, but it's also possible to set dark/light mode too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Oh, somehow I missed the theme setting. I tried both firefox and chromium and got the light theme by default despite having my system/browser settings set to prefer a dark theme.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago