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I revised the title many times. Am I giving the impact breadth of what it could be without veering into click-bait?

Bluetooth Low Energy MESH Network, it is built into the OS without any noted country exemption. Although there be will many air gaps, that is not what I mean.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/05/apple-and-google-deliver-support-for-unwanted-tracking-alerts-in-ios-and-android/

Some questions that came to mind reading it?

  • Can China even pull it out of the OS for good measure, hack it?
  • Even with topology of some enable, others disable, others wanting security will be reading bluetooth MAC addresses of un-consenting, disabled, for tracking of others whom have enabled, even if they are not being targeted. See below screenshots from the Internet Engineering Task Force presentation.
  • Is the Bluetooth freqz and combinatory fields bio-active in any regard of it's function? Do plants stay healthy around "high intake" Bluetooth whatever that may be?
  • They mentioned other devices and Industry being involved, how many devices to we expect to also use this protocol in the future?
  • If we mapped it out, all of these devices thus operating, mapped out of the whole network with a Supercomputer, real-time, how much energy do you think it would be? How many BLE pulses per second, in a busy metropolitan area?
  • Who pushed for this TRACKING NETWORK I will be partcipating in whether I like or NOT (uptake)?
  • Where was the pre-planning market and socio-economic research on this presented beforehand?
  • If entities very intent on tracking you, will just disable/refuse the protcol, then why instead would Apple and Alphabet whom introduced the vulnerability, just ...make thier own implementation secure?

So we're going to skip this useless marketing-speak on 9to5 Mac - Here’s how the new Cross-Platform Tracking Detection works in iOS 17.5

As far as I can tell, there is nothing that says it doesn't perform assessment of the MAC address in range, all of them, for "your" security of course. In fact, it seems in line with what they want to accomplish: Track all the trackers? Later safeguard them with a "Safefilter" online database check when Phone starts?

Did I get it wrong?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The question regarding Bluetooth and plants is the giveaway this is an r/conspiracy-level post, and that you have no idea what you’re talking about lmao.

Did I get it wrong?

Oh boy, yes. This network tracks items specifically built on this protocol. It has nothing to do with “tracking your MAC address”. That’s already done whenever you walk into a train station and goes over WiFi. Which you can disable.

MAC addresses are not unique. If you know the seed for it’s random generation you might be able to track it across WiFi networks that you own, but you’ll already know where the user is since you own the fucking network. This is not a worldwide tracking network that can follow your every move.

If that’s what you’re worried about, I suggest ditching your phone completely. Because the “worldwide tracking network” that already works is called the cellular network, no need to build another one.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

This network tracks items specifically built on this protocol

Wrong. It tracks all Bluetooth devices, but provides more functionality if the protocol is used by owned device + tracking device.

you’ll already know where the user is since you own the fucking network.

Strange comment, who owns what network that is valid here in this context? This network works across Apple and Android Bluetooth Low Energy, no one owns that network.

Because the “worldwide tracking network” that already works is called the cellular network

Wrong. Although you obviously get all sorts of data to use from LTE/CDMA/etc from a phone, you need to catch it in between a tower handoff which records the movement speed and it's not accurate. Really only accurate if you use three towers, high power, in close range of the device, but that is Nation State level phreaking. BLE will be able to use every device in the vicinity and would be trackable down to inches, just like the AirTag and what these devices are meant for.

I suggest

Comical