this post was submitted on 10 May 2024
341 points (97.2% liked)

Technology

58303 readers
18 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Chinese vehicles suck. Here in mexico they're all over the place, and their quality is questionable. MGs are a joke now. Good for the US to block these imports.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m more annoyed that basically every western car company tried to make a $70,000 luxury EV to upscale their brand instead of making a sensible one that people will actually buy. If we want widespread adoption, we need more EVs that aren’t priced based on some pipe dream that people will wake up one day and think Ford is a luxury brand.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The tech for EVs is not quite there yet. Most technologies/services star as a luxury ok this cases where the manufacturing costs are still too high. For example Uber, which started as a luxury service before being widespread with the shitty service they became.

That's one of the reasons why I hope my country sets restrictions on these Chinese EVs, as there is not enough infrastructure in Mexico for EVs to even existe, and we can't produce enough energy for them to be a viable solution for transportation. Heck, I'm even with Toyota and believe EVs are not a tech we should be investing in, and the world will not move to EVs as a widespread mode of transportation. i certainly hope so, because people buying EVs thinking they are the most green solution are not seeing the elephant in the room.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, we need to stop taking carbon out of the ground and lighting it on fire so it becomes atmospheric carbon. I’m not expecting middle income countries to carry the load but it’s way easier in a rich country like the U.S. or E.U. to switch to electric and switch power generation to renewables or nuclear than it is to (for instance) convince everyone to stop eating beef.

In no way do I think electric cars by themselves to solve the problem. It’s gotta be a comprehensive strategy. I live in a place that’s prone to hurricanes (New Orleans) and I added solar+batter to my house and got a plugin hybrid. It’s actually better because every few years, a storm knocks out the power grid for a few days and I can still juice up my car an bit and air condition at least one room. So, oil/gas power is unreliable for me when I need it most. But we’re on the front lines, being below sea level, and everyone is going to get there if we keep lighting carbon on fire and making carbon dioxide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Sure thing, but most people into EVs feel greener while driving EVs, and think that's all they need to do. A state in Mexico bought electric busses for public transportation and results they charge them with diesel generators, so EVs are now just a gimmick of being environmentally friendly, it's so dumb.

I'm all for changing from fossil fuels to renewable energy, but EVs are in no way a factor for the general public to adopt alternative energies. EVs replacing fossil fuel vehicles won't happen as fast as needed for it to make a change in people's minds that solar or nuclear are needed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bullshit. The EX30 is here and selling for 35,000. The tech is mature, they just don't want to serve the average consumer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What tech are you talking about? I'm talking about the grid not being able to serve everyone switching to EVs anytime soon. Also people don't factor the batteries needing replacement after some years like any other appliance running on batteries, and those can be quite expensive to replace.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The car tech. But also, using Mexico's power infrastructure as a guide to American tariffs on Chinese EVs doesn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If these Chinese vehicles suck so much, why are US car companies so afraid of them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cuz China is well known for subsidizing production (well the US kinda does it too for some productos anyway). I personally wouldn't buy a Chinese vehicle out of security and quality concerns, regardless of it being Ev or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

If the vehicles are so low quality and dangerous, then it wouldn't be the job of tariffs but of bans, since there are minimum safety standards that still apply.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

MGs were already a joke though. And if they're so bad then why do they need to be blocked?