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Nigeria has gotten billions of dollars in U.S. security assistance, even as its counterterrorism campaign has a massive civilian death toll.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (8 children)

This is pretty interesting. Americans seem to be convinced that their president is the king of earth and they can, with a wave of their finger change anything. This is total bullshit

Presidential power inside the country is extremely limited by the constitution and they rarely have an opportunity to “just do what they said they were going to do”.

Outside our borders… it’s so fucking complicated that no one person really understands the global web of power and influence. At the bottom of the pyramid though, always force of arms. If America is willing to fight you, then you do what they say.

So… should we start a war in every place on earth that genocide is occurring? Really channel our inner dick Cheney and waste life and treasure in regime changes? Should we really cede all power in the Middle East to Iran so that we can stop our (fucking asshole of an) ally Israel from using those weapons on a highly immoral war? Should we start WWIII with china to save the Uighurs? How many African nations should we currently be bombing?

Which of those wars do you want to fight? Have you enlisted yet? What are you waiting for?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We just want the US to stop giving Israel money and weapons. How is that so fucking hard to understand?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

We also want it to stop obsessively protecting it from the UN and international law.

The US is currently trying to lobby the ICC in Netanyahu's favour.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Me too. Shame is that doing that would empower Iran, which isn’t great. It’s all tough choices and I’m pretty tired of listening to idiots pretend they have all the answers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Who cares about Iran

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Uh... Biden can stop the mess in Israel with a phone call. Reagan did it.

Should we really cede all power in the Middle East to Iran so that we can stop our (fucking asshole of an) ally Israel from using those weapons on a highly immoral war?

I'm not sure why that's the dichotomy here, but literally yes. The US has no business staying in the middle east as long as it has. Also it's a genocide, not just "immoral war".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

So… should we start a war in every place on earth that genocide is occurring? Really channel our inner dick Cheney and waste life and treasure in regime changes?

No one here is advocating for that. “Stop funding genocide” is a far cry for “Channel your inner Dick Cheney”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I'm not American and I'm not asking them to stop Israel's genocide. I'm asking them to:

  • stop funding it

  • stop supplying it with weapons

  • stop vetoing UN measures against it

  • stop lobbying the ICC and other international bodies in support of it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

At least in the case of Gaza the US are literally funding it to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Unless there's some mystical magical procedure I'm not aware of, Biden could veto anything that supports Israel that comes out of Congress. A literal unused one person choke point that keeps passing weapons to Israel. The frustrating thing about Gaza is how simple it would be to stop it. Stop the flow of weapons. The US has threatened it before, and gotten results.

Please stop pretending the US can't wield power that isn't an invasion force.

Yeah, this article is also about funding...sooooo....

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Sending weapons to Israel is part of a very old US strategy to check Iranian power. You can argue that we should stop trying to check Iranian power, I could probably be convinced of that. Being an enemy of Iran has led us to some of our shittiest “allies”. Remember when US presidents shook hands with Sadam Hussein? That shit happened!

We can stop sending them weapons and money. We should. We should try to make those shipments conditional on changes to the Gaza war strategy. But letting Iran run wild is not going to be super great for US interests and is going to be VERY unpopular with US citizens. It’s not that I like the way everything is happening, it’s that it isn’t simple. Iranian troops in Israel, SA and Iraq isn’t an outcome we can handle so taking our foot off the pedal almost certainly leads to a hot war with Iran. That sucks a lot.