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How working for Big Tech lost 'dream job' status (www.cnbc.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

My point is that while it seems insane to leave half a million in RSUs to leave a company, if the person thinks their job is in a precarious position, it's extremely unlikely they would ever have vested them all anyway. So the money was never really theirs to begin with.

Now, is that DevOps engineer worth that much more than the warehouse guy who picks the item to send to you? I doubt it. But it seems like that's the going rate for a competent DevOps engineer with the relevant experience. While the qualifications to be in the warehouse are not quite so stringent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If they could pay less for a dev ops, they would.

So yes, the dev ops guy has higher market value than warehouse guy. It's basic stats.

Practically anyone can be warehouse guy. I can't be dev ops guy, even with 35 years years in IT.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

The big difference between IT and Devops is that IT fixes a problem, Devops solves it. In IT roles, I'm usually stuck pissing on the same fires over and over. In Devops roles, I'm given the time to go get a hose and put the fire out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

leave half a million in RSUs

I'm not sure if it's intentionally being left out here, but if you have half a million in unvested stock, any competing offer from another FAANG company is likely giving you a stock match, or at least somewhere close to match.

The golden handcuffs aren't as tight as people make them seem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's no guarantee, though, it would have to be negotiated. And let's face it, most devs aren't the best at negotiating....

[–] fuzzzerd 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would argue that devs getting 500k in stocks are at least decent at negotiating and other soft skills.

You don't get that kind of compensation for just having tech chops.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure you do, the Bay Area is full of below average devs with RSUs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're below average devs because they compensate with better than average negotiation skills.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, if they had negotiation skills they would be below average managers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

They eventually will be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Now, is that DevOps engineer worth that much more than the warehouse guy who picks the item to send to you?

This is going to make me sound like a prick, but yeah the DevOps guy is worth more than the warehouse guy, maybe not 500k more but still alot more.

It all comes down to how many package deliveries 1 warehouse guy can facilitate vs 1 DevOps guy. Speaking as someone who worked at a warehouse (package distribution fedex) for a short period of time, moving boxes is nowhere near as valuable.

Not to say it's not crucial, but the ratio of engineers:package handlers needed is really high