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submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I just want forums to chat about current events, argue about stupid fandoms, and bicker with internet trolls. Reddit used to be that, and I had hopes for Lemmy, but everything here is choked to death by over moderation that has nothing to do with keeping healthy communities. It's just thinly veiled echo chambers that don't want to admit what their community is about.

This is coming off a ban over disagreeing with vegans calling dietary disagreements the same as racism. The dude literally said different species were similar to humans having different races. I called that 1800s slave owning theory racism if I've ever seen it lmao.

I know people dont care for internet drama, I just wanted to rant. The internet of tomorrow fucking sucks.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm not here to debate the validity of cherry-picked portions of their statement. Feel free to respond to me in that thread on that topic. Then you might understand my rant about pointless bans here. I was fully willing to engage in a good faith debate on this topic in the place where it was happening.

I'm here venting and now justifying my vent to you. You were claiming I was uncivil, and I'm asking you to point at my uncivil statements.

As a sign of good faith, I'll point out that the debate on veganism wasn't being fairly input to the thread. The reason I gave half assed responses was that they were attacking people unjustly to begin with.

Veganism is a complex topic ranging from food scarcity to eating habits. I'm an advocate for veganism and participate in 3 vegan days a week. Both me and my wife come from heavy meat cultures and do not find it so simple a habit to beat.

But even when I pointed out they didn't know my stance on veganism, they were still assholes at a personal level.

So please go continue the conversation on veganism with the rest of the circlejerk where I am banned.

I would prefer the focus of this post be about how unrelated moderation is stifling this site to death.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

So please go continue the conversation on veganism with the rest of the circlejerk where I am banned.

Sounds reasonable. The discussion already happened once, there is probably no need to have the same argument here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You were claiming I was uncivil,

I think you are confusing me with someone else.

Maybe in hindsight I should've shared a link instead of a screenshot, but I checked the conversation again and I haven't seen a reply that changes the matter imo.

All I did was posting screenshots asking if this was the conversation you were talking about and pointing out how I think one of the things you said was inaccurate. Since you were bringing this claim here, I figured that that was okay to adress it here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

None of my statements were attacking anything except for racist ideology.

It seems to me that amzd compared speciesism to racism, specifically to condemn speciesism, and by extention factory farms. Not to condone racism.

The step you need, to go from "racism is wrong" to "speciesism is wrong" is to extend your circle of compassion to all sentient animals and not just humans.

This is a direct quote from them that this is based on.

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Here is your comment I responded to. The claim you were challenging was me saying I was not uncivil because I attacked racist ideology, not individuals.

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Looking at the modlog, you weren't banned for your views but your combative and rude attitude expressed in numerous comments, breaking the rules about civility.

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Here is the start of this specific comment chain that you are debating my response to.

But now that I've hammered down to the point of the matter, you want to posture that I've lost the comment chain.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The claim you were challenging was me saying I was not uncivil because I attacked racist ideology, not individuals.

The claim I was challenging was that it was racist in the first place. That's all I was doing in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And that kind of discussion would go in the relevant thread, in the sub I'm banned in.

I'm not here to debate the validity of cherry-picked statements from the dude who says human races are like different species.