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[–] recursive_recursion 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

There's a couple of contradictions I've found that might have caused the suspension:


Lack of Disclosure

  • this will come into play again later on #4

  1. Should organizations relating to the defense sector being able to sponsor NixOS?
  • the inadequate disclosure/lack of transparency of how sponsorships are being handled (which feels similar to the Rust Foundation's previous blunders)

Incredibly Odd Behavior

  1. Jonathan Ringer's Reddit post
  • incorrectly stated their status as a ban rather than a suspension.
    They should clearly know that they're suspended rather than banned especially since they themselves linked to the GitHub moderation commit which states as such.

  1. Jonathan Ringer's Recent Comment History

> I'm not innocent, but it's hard to stay impartial when you're so invested in a project and community.
  • What's the intent of this statement?

> I don't want to play their "victim/oppressor" narrative, so I'm evil incarnate.  
> It's also to "tone police" the rest of the community from speaking against their actions.  
> Any rational person would want to avoid dealing with that hornets nest.  
> Now I'm irrational and banned! :(
  • continued display of erratic irrational behavior.

  1. Jonathan Ringer works for Anduril
  • which is a direct contradiction to Lack of Disclosure - #1.
  • Also I want to say great eye to [email protected] for spotting that!, as I didn't notice that critical information the first time I read through the discussions

For clarification: Anduril is an American military company

  • there's a good reason why people don't want Nix to be sponsored by the military

From what I've found so far:

jonringer was suspended for 6 weeks (until 2024-06-10) for repeatedly derailing sensitive discussions and willfully furthering the division in the community

^this suspension seems to make sense as Jonathan Ringer is:

  1. Clearly in violation of Conflict of Interest due to their involvement with Lack of Disclosure - #1.
  2. Still displaying on Reddit "willfully furthering the division in the community" as mentioned in the moderation commit action

They've caused problems in the past and it seems clear they haven't learned what really caused the suspension in the first place.
Their behavior is unsustainable so I can see the reason for the suspension, although at this point a permaban might be warranted due to the reasons stated above


Edit:
There's more bewildering comments from Jonathan it seems:

> This seems to be aligned with a similar attempt of mine #114 from 2021.

> The goal has been moved from "these are acceptable behaviors in this CoC" (114) to "these are how these behaviors should be enforced fairly". Which sounds good to me.

> I'll do a more thorough review, but feel confident that I would like to nominate myself as a shepherd.
[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wow, that's a great summary, thanks for putting all this effort.

Is he having a mental health breakdown? He's using pretty odd phrasing to basically say he feels unjustly targeted.

[–] recursive_recursion 7 points 6 months ago

Wow, that’s a great summary, thanks for putting all this effort.

no worries👍
I just happened to see this post and fell down the rabbit hole

Is he having a mental health breakdown? He’s using pretty odd phrasing to basically say he feels unjustly targeted.

I have no idea, can't really say anything about their mental state as I don't really know them
What I do know is that I personally wouldn't want them anywhere near my projects