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[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

~~Turns out that IBM is leading OpenTofu efforts.~~ Nevermind, it's OpenBao they are working on (Hashicorp Vault FOSS fork), we might just be done here.

Also Pulumi is technically fucked too. Back to good old shell scripting boys

[โ€“] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Turns out that IBM is leading OpenTofu efforts.

IBM is in no way involved in OpenTofu. Afaik they are involved in OpenBao.

Source: I'm the technical lead of the OpenTofu project.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Apologies, I got that wrong. Will edit my comment

[โ€“] derpgon 2 points 7 months ago

Legend ๐Ÿซก

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The bastards can never take away your shell script full of arcane and unreadable curl commands parsed by incomprehensible awk scripts!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

This is the way

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

OpenTofu is under Linux Foundation stewardship, they can find another supporter.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Thanks, I got that wrong. Edited

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Isn't Pulumi moving to native API stuff instead of the tf provider?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They wish. Nobody is gonna replicate that effort successfully any time soon.

Youโ€™d sooner get the cloud providers to standardize on an api.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean, they have AWS Native (in preview) and Azure Native. So it's a little more substantial than a wish.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Crossplane has also had internal providers in development for 3 years. Bottom line is unless the actual cloud provider is devoting developer resources to a provider(like they do for the TF providers), it's unlikely to happen.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I guess I need to start looking deeper into this, and the potential for importing existing infrastructures into pulumi's purview. But I'm hesitant - I don't want pulumi to pull a Hashicorp. I'm wondering if it's best to just go with CFN and Bicep.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

If you're migrating from tf, OpenTofu might be a better option. I mostly like Pulimi for the language options.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago