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Framework won’t be just a laptop company anymore (www.theverge.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It started with notebooks, but that wasn’t the master plan.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

A dongle is a workaround. The headphone jack just works.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I hear you, but a usb-c has more uses than one, the only real problem with a dongle is now is that occasionally you need to charge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A dongle is a workaround. The headphone jack just works.

Framework also uses a USB-C adapter. It costs 20 Euro: https://frame.work/products/audio-expansion-card

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's great! But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in. As should everyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in.

Nope, the new 16 inch does not. The older 13 does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

What?! That's ridiculous. Hotswap ports are great for high throughput devices requiring PCIe lanes, but taking the audio port out gains you literally nothing. There should be some standard ports + hotswappable ports.

I also wish they could find a way to redesign the Ethernet port with a hinged jaw or something so it isn't so massive, I wouldn't want to leave that plugged in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Oh, the 13. That's what I was looking at.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

A dongle is a solution to the problem "I want to use my headphones with a device with only a USB-C port."

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago

It's not a work-around, a headphone requires a DAC and an amp. In fact, my phone has a crap DAC causing artifacts in the sound. It's actually not to my benefit to have the jack because I'd get better sound with the external DAC which is transparent.

So the jack works, but the DAC you get can be whatever the manufacturer considers good enough.

DACs I can hear issues in:

My phone, my tablet, my desktop PC

DACs that are transparent to me:

My laptop, my $12 external DAC