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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Usually when I read “both sides are the same”, it’s a blue conservative like you trying to make people critical of the Democratic party seem unreasonable.

Both sides are capitalist and conservative, but there are differences for sure. Dont you want more differences?

If you wanna really shut up those people bitching from the sidelines, the best way to do so is to put them in the game! Force them to show us how to do things since it’s so easy and they have it all figured out.

Switching away from first past the post voting allows people to vote for who represents them best while still counting their vote against those they dont want to win. Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.

Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.

Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans prefer?

More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is representedby their choices in the voting booth. More people involved in the electoral process, more people engaged.

Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states?

You believe it’s critical to vote for the democrats to beat the Republicans, thus you should 100% be fully invested in passing electoral reform in your state.

Electoral reform needs to be the number one priority for every democrat. This is a existential threat to our nation, so we must use EVERY tool at our disposal. No more waiting. This especially goes for those in blue states.

Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Fascinating. Your account actually had already caught my attention a little bit, previous to this -- are you open to me explaining why, even if it'll be a little bit unfair accusation?

Usually when I read “both sides are the same”, it’s a blue conservative like you trying to make people critical of the Democratic party seem unreasonable.

Right out of the gate, you've elected a strawman. I'm actually fine with criticism of the Democratic party; I've done some of it lower down in this thread, and elsewhere I compared the Biden state department to Nazis because of what they're enabling in Gaza. Criticism sounds great.

If you want to disagree with my post and argue that voting is a bad idea, please be honest and do so explicitly; I think it will not be a popular view.

If you want to tell me most of the Democrats are bad or that reforming the voting system is a good idea, I'm all for it and would probably agree with you.

If you want to construct a little edifice where you're saying those sensible things while cunningly pretending that I'm saying the opposite of those sensible things when I'm not, I'm going to assume you're in this conversation for a dishonest reason. So please don't do that. Sounds fair, no?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I'm a New Zealander. We switched from FPP to MMP in the 90s. Definitely agree that FPP is the biggest problem you have. It is the worst voting system