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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (10 children)

It didn't used to be that way. Big blowouts used to be common.

I think it's a result of the GOP holding on to electoral legitimacy purely through electoral tricks which are expensive / criminal to a pretty large degree, since except for a little violent minority, almost all of the country has moved on from supporting them or anything they stand for. They don't want to expend more money or risk than is needed, so they'll do more or less the minimum that seems like it'll let them hold on to power. Even that isn't really working that well anymore, and so their grip is slipping, and with Trump now running the show and demolishing the RNC's effectiveness just as thoroughly as he does everything else he touches, all bets are off for the upcoming election.

I think they're planning to move to simple explicit violence during this election, since that's all that is left if they want to avoid defeat, but you can't completely write off how effective their propaganda is at convincing people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (8 children)

The propaganda has always been my gripe. I definitely blame people for having such hate in their hearts that it works on them, but it's the propagandists that twist reality in a way that make it "logical" for the average voter to believe their candidate is the "one who can save us."

I don't believe my father is that hateful, but boy did Fox News really get to him as far as "evil Democrats." His arguments are always economic, he doesn't care one way or the other about trans issues, immigration, etc, but he'll eat up anything Fox has to say about "whales dying due to wind powered generators."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

Yeah. I really don't like the mindset that Trump voters are evil or racist, they fully understand what he's about and they want it. A tiny percentage of them are that way; most are not. In my experience, Trump supporters I've talked to have been victimized by extremely powerful extremely expensive / well produced propaganda that's created this whole alternate reality in their minds that's extremely convincing, and they're just trying to do the right thing within that reality.

I don't know what the solution to that is, but treating them as bad people (and particularly, ignoring or downplaying the economic / societal abandonment of them that created legitimate anger and resentment which the propaganda can play into) is definitely not the answer.

[–] realbadat 3 points 7 months ago

In my experience, it's mostly been the "You're one of the good ones!" type of racist that gets sucked in and consider it reasonable.

As in, without some seed of racism/misogyny/etc that propaganda fertilizer would mean nothing.

But that's my experience with magats I know.

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