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Is reddit as censored as the fediverse?
Lemmy and mastodon are quite useless.
You can have the same core views as someone on lemmy and mastodon but if you point out a hypocritical post you will get blocked or your post removed. Being a hateful hypocritical person is okay but if you point out someone else doing it its not okay. A loop of hypocrisy.
Redit is SIGNIFICATLY more censored than lemmy
It is? I'm not a big social media person so I don't know. I do know, that I've seen highly opposing view points for touchy topics on reddit many times and those posts get many up or down votes. Sometimes I see a post is locked from further discussion etc, but the posts are still there allowing everyone to see all view points.
But on mastadon/ lemmy all I've seen so far are hateful hypocrites who instantly block/ban/remove your post etc. If you fully agree with someone, except for the hypocritical part of there post and you echo that back to them, blocked/post removed.
Wonder what you said three hours ago to get banned from the Dunk Tank. You're really lucky the modlog doesn't elaborate on what it was, or I'd post the receipt here.
The person who makes Hyperland was blacklisted by freedesktop (Linux stuff) over saying something transphobic as far as I understand from a glance.
They made a post in response in which they said 'This other person threatened to sexually assault people as revenge for something small. I'm not the only person deserving of shame'. I'm sure there's more to this story, I don't care.
A hexbear user in response to this story wrote there's a false equivalence between a trans person calling for violence in a hyperbolic tweet and this app developer using their platform to spread anti-trans hate. I think, again, I do not care about the actual story, Fictitiousexistence's comment doesn't need context to be bad.
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Yeah nah, fuck that guy then. All the modlog had was that he'd got banned; but the comment didn't have a removal message in the modlog, so I didn't see that-- that's fuckin gross.
On Reddit you will be banned if you say something the mods don't like and they take personally. And it can get you banned off the sire permanently too.
Often commenting on one thread will ban you from other subreddits entirely by bot. Plus all the same garbage of not being able to say words that are considered naughty or no-no words from people who think it makes them superior are all over reddit.
I once got banned from a "leftist" subreddit cause I pointed out that a post was right wing disinformation and the mod responded that they agreed with it so it couldn't be propaganda and then spent like an hour yelling at me in my messages about how it was a starter leftist sub and that I didn't belong if I wasn't going to agree.
But honestly the world is full of the dumbest little shits and everyone everywhere has a quirk and Lemmy is full of people full of themselves and thinking their shit don't stink. That and moderately well off liberals that can't handle being told they are wrong because they "are well educated and know how things work".
I do think it's insane how quick people are to block and how even more empty it makes the fediverse, interesting that you are dealing with people that also have the ability to delete your replies though as that's not really a thing on Lemmy so maybe a mastodon thing?
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Honestly prior to the api protest I had somewhat good communications with mods, and by just following the only rule, which is behave, I got around some rule and had enough clarifications about them. The new mods that replaced them are a mess. Even the power mods of the past like that turtle person pale in comparison to what I've seen. They don't even know modding tools such as warnings, temporary bans. It's like touching a md account for the first time got them power hungry like never before.
Federal agents always rip the mask off when you point out they're being fascists. I remember this one time I was in a liberal subreddit and this one guy started doing nazi talking points so I called them out and reported them. Suddenly I got a very threatening message in my DMs from their mods telling me that I better watch myself or there was going to be consequences then next thing I knew the subreddit shut down and has been down ever since. At the time I was floored that such a seemingly progressive place could just go hardcore nazi just out of the blue but now that I'm politically educated I now know that liberalism is little more than the larval form of outright nazism.
Don't forget about shadowbans that attempt to make it seem like you aren't banned when your entire account is hidden without your knowledge.
Oh God right! The weirdest darkest form of mild censorship.
I can decide if it's clever or very fucked up.
I think it's just very messed up, ultimately it doesn't work against the real nasty people Reddit claims to be going up against because those people have bot armies that monitor their astroturf accounts so they know when the shadowbans happen and dump the account to move on to the next ones. No this system disproportionately affects the people who aren't expecting it and probably don't even deserve it.
Also for braindead spammers it's actually a terrible strategy because spammers' purpose is both to annoy users and chew through your resources, even if they are shadowbanned and uploading multiple gigabytes of white noise they aren't annoying people but they are chewing through bandwidth and CDN storage. IMO that's not feasible long term, and wouldn't even be initially feasible for most Fediverse services, hence why most basically just don't do it.
Sure but also general trolls that are just trying to get an emotional rise just piss in wind thinking they aren't getting bait. It's that concept of not feeding the trolls.
Also comments are reddits bread and butter so processing a few extra aren't really impacting them and they are small to begin with. There is also the added bonus of it looks good on metrics for interactions.
I think assuming every troll has a bot army is greatly overestimating them, people are more underwhelming than even they like to admit. And seems like it could help with minor deviants but also I wonder if that would make them act up more and turn to more offensive ways of baiting an audience, but then you ban them.
Sort of like boiling a group down on purpose. A bit awful as you help nurture the problems to be more easy to remove.
Whoops. Maybe I just mean the fediverse in general not "lemmy" in particular. Sorry, it's all confusing.
In my experience, Lemmy is not as censored as Reddit
You can disagree here, as long as you keep it civil, all is good
Not a metric but ok
Again, not what you say but how you say it
Sounds like you are proud of them ...
I think that one is better off not discussing these topics online at all.
I have never seen anything good come out of it, anywhere. Ever
Lmao, thank you mods for proving my point that .ml is heavily censored.
The rule against mild criticism of the admins? It can't be censorship if there are rules, right?
i have only ever had one post of mine be deleted, and that was a post talking about suicide. I don't exactly agree with the deletion, but hey i don't make the rules, it's their community.