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Listening to a recent episode of the Solarpunk Presents podcast reminded me the importance of consistently calling out cryptocurrency as a wasteful scam. The podcast hosts fail to do that, and because bad actors will continue to try to push crypto, we must condemn it with equal persistence.

Solarpunks must be skeptical of anyone saying it’s important to buy something, like a Tesla, or buy in, with cryptocurrency. Capitalists want nothing more than to co-opt radical movements, neutralizing them, to sell products.

People shilling crypto will tell you it decentralizes power. So that’s a lie, but solarpunks who believe it may be fooled into investing in this Ponzi scheme that burns more energy than some countries. Crypto will centralize power in billionaires, increasing their wealth and decreasing their accountability. That’s why Space Karen Elon Musk pushes crypto. The freer the market, the faster it devolves to monopoly. Rather than decentralizing anything, crypto would steer us toward a Bladerunner dystopia with its all-powerful Tyrell corporation.

Promoting crypto on a solarpunk podcast would be unforgivable. That’s not quite what happens on S5E1 “Let’s Talk Tech.” The hosts seem to understand crypto has no part in a solarpunk future or its prefigurative present. But they don’t come out and say that, adopting a tone of impartiality. At best, I would call this disingenuous. And it reeks of the both-sides-ism that corporate media used to paralyze climate action discourse for decades.

Crypto is not “appropriate tech,” and discussing it without any clarity is inappropriate.

Update for episode 5.3: In a case of hyper hypocrisy, they caution against accepting superficial solutions---things that appear utopian but really reinforce inequality and accelerate the climate crisis---while doing exactly that by talking up cryptocurrency.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a high percentage of the pool of known live nodes. It wouldn't necessarily be expensive if you can steal keys by hacking as well as DDoSing a handful other nodes which would be voting against you to artificially boost your fraction of voting power in chain selection.

It might be noticed eventually, but it would take hours to weeks just to confirm it really happened and exodus would take weeks to months. You could make many small trades to increase the volume of coins through your wallet, then reverse all outgoing transactions from your wallet, then make a big payment, get something valuable, reverse the payment and keep what you bought, and repeat until it simply stops working.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I don't think it would take that long to notice. There are many people who make it their business to keep up with what's happening on chain. I'd wager that before the perpetrators even managed to gain control alarm bells would be going off.

Maybe a full exodus might take weeks or months but enough to tank the token price could happen in minutes.

I don't believe that the scenario that you're imagining would be worthwhile enough for anyone to want to attempt it even if it is plausible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Even if there are people who know something is wrong in minutes there are simply not going to be a large enough fraction of the holders who can sell that fast.

And even if there were, you could just make money on shorting the cryptocurrency instead

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Really? Where can you short crypto?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Multiple cryptocurrency markets offers it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Which ones? I wouldn't mind shorting a few things.