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TLDR: StartAllBack, ExplorerPatcher and some other projects are being blocked on 24H2.

One more reason to switch to Linux

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The fact that windows is now becoming Apple 2.0 is kinda crazy ngl lol, thought shouldn’t be surprising cuz every tech company is now doing enshittification at this point.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And yet they're not even becoming apple in the areas where apple does well - UX consistency, battery optimisations, a reasonably well-curated app store, etc

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

who the hell needs an app store on PC?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Linux does a centralized, curated software repository with support for updates and it's loved.

Windows does a centralized, curated software repository with support for updates and people question why it's needed.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

That's because the windows one came a decade+ too late, has a bunch of restrictions (particularly at launch when you couldn't even put desktop apps in it), and generally doesn't fit with the ecosystem. One of the reason Linux package managers are loved is it is a one-stop-shop for all app and OS updates. The Microsoft Store doesn't do that, nor can you add third party repositories to it (like you can in Linux) in order to attempt to make it a one-stop-shop.

A big hint here is it's called the Microsoft Store. It doesn't perform the same function or achieve the same goals as a Linux package manager. And that is on purpose.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At least they made a good choice with winget.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

♥️ winget my beloved ♥️

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I mean, there's lots of things in OSes that you don't need but are very useful to have. I love having access to Paint when I use Windows, but it's certainly not a hard OS requirement.

I imagine you're reeling at the idea of an app store on PC primarily because you know the Microsoft store to be absolute dog shit, and you'd be right, because it's a steaming turd. It's full of crap, fraudulent paid copies of open source software, outdated software because the dev hasn't bothered to update the WinStore listing, etc.

If you look over at the Linux world and installing apps is generally as simple as: open the software centre, search for software, press the install button, you're done. Updates will be done either manually or automatically through the software centre, for all of your apps.

Now, contrast that with what people actually do on Windows (because they sure as fuck aren't using the MS store): open your web browser (hey btw we noticed you're not using Edge, do you want to switch???), search for the software, make sure to click the link to the correct website (which isn't always obvious if you don't know the developer name), navigate to the download page, select Windows [version] x86_64, open your downloads folder, run the installer with admin permissions, go through an installer, delete the installer file, delete the shortcut it added to your desktop. Updates will be handled by an updater service for each individual app and most love to start running immediately after booting your machine.

A better app store is absolutely something Microsoft should be looking into

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

that's true. on Linux, I used the software center or whatever. Microsoft store tho? never

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Thing is, I think Microsoft has a vested interest/legal responsibility to their shareholders to make sure the Windows Store is as constipated as possible.

They can't have Firefox or Chrome in there, they have to push their browser, Edge, because their shareholders will sue them if they facilitate installing someone else's spyware instead of their own. They don't put old versions of Solitaire or FreeCell in there, because the new ones run ads. Third parties are either as evil as Microsoft, or they won't touch their store with a barge pole.

So what's in the Microsoft store? Office, Minecraft Bedrock Edition, and a bunch of worthless crap you've never heard of.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago

One tech company said "Hey, I can see the bottom!" and every other tech company replied "Race you there!"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

They’re not becoming Apple 2.0, Apple is becoming Microsoft 2.0. If you look into the history of Microsoft and Windows, you’ll see that they’ve always been this way, but have received more pushback in the past. Microsoft is the OG tech giant empire.