I prefer to rebase as well. But when you're working with a team of amateurs who don't know how to use a VCS properly and never update their branc with the parent branch, you end up with lots of conflicts.

I find that for managing conflicts, rebase is very difficult as you have to resolve conflicts for every commit. You can either use rerere to repeat the conflict resolution automatically, or you can squash everything. But when you're dealing with a team of Git-illiterate developers (which is VERY often the case) you can either spend the time to educate them and still risk having problems because they don't give a shit, or you can just do a regular merge and go on with your life.

Those are my two cents, speaking from experience.

[–] technom 18 points 7 months ago (18 children)

I agree that merge is the easier strategy with amateurs. By amateurs I mean those who cannot be bothered to learn about rebase. But what you really lose there is a nice commit history. It's good to have, even if your primary strategy is merging. And people tend to create horrendous commit histories when they don't know how to edit them.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Honestly, I'm pretty sure 99.9% of git users never really bother with the git history in any way that would be hindered by merging.

Git has a ton of powerful features, but for most projects they don't matter at all. You want a distributed consensus, that's it. Bothering yourself with all those advanced features and trying to learn some esoteric commands is frankly just overhead. Yes, you can solve great problems with them, but these problems almost never occur, and if they do, using the stupid tools is faster overall.

[–] technom -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Only users who don't know rebasing and the advantages of a crafted history make statements like this. There are several projects that depend on clean commit history. You need it for conventional commit tools (like commitzen), pre-commit hook tools, git blame, git bisect, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Uuuh, am I no true Scotsman?

Counter argument: why do you keep fucking up so bad you need these tools? Only users who are bad at programming need these. Makes about as much sense as your accusation.

You keep iterating the same arguments as the rest here, and I still adhere to my statement above: hardly anybody needs those tools. I literally never used pre-commit hooks or bisect in any semi-professional context. And I don't know a single project that uses them. And before you counter with another "well u stoopid then" comment: the projects I've been working on were with pretty reputable companies and handled literally billions of Euros every year. I can honestly say, that pretty much everyone living in Germany had his/her data pushed through code that I wrote.

[–] technom 1 points 7 months ago

Uuuh, am I no true Scotsman?

That's a terrible and disingenuous take. I'm saying that you won't understand why it's useful till you've used it. Spinning that as no true Scotsman fallacy is just indicative of that ignorance.

You keep iterating the same arguments as the rest here, and I still adhere to my statement above: hardly anybody needs those tools.

And you keep repeating that falsehood. Isn't that the real no true Scotsman fallacy? How do you even pretend to know that nobody needs it? You can't talk for everyone else. Those who use it find it useful in several other ways that I and others have explained. You can't just judge it away from your position of ignorance.

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