this post was submitted on 12 Jul 2023
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Fuck Subscriptions

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Naming and shaming all "recurring spending models" where a one-time fee (or none at all) would be appropriate and logical.

Expect use of strong language.

Follow the basic rules of lemmy.world and common sense, and try to have fun if possible.

No flamewars or attacking other users, unless they're spineless corporate shills.

Note that not all subscriptions are awful. Supporting your favorite ~~camgirl~~ creator or Lemmy server on Patreon is fine. An airbag with subscription is irl Idiocracy-level dystopian bullshit.

New community rule: Shilling for cunty corporations, their subscriptions and other anti-customer practices may result in a 1-day ban. It's so you can think about what it's like when someone can randomly decide what you can and can't use, based on some arbitrary rules. Oh what, you didn't read this fine print? You should read what you're agreeing to.

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Some other groovy communities for those who wish to own their products, their data and their life:

Right to Repair/Ownership

Hedges Development

Privacy

Privacy Guides

DeGoogle Yourself

F-Droid

Stallman Was Right

Some other useful links:

FreeMediaHeckYeah

Louis Rossman's YouTube channel

Look at content hosted at Big Tech without most of the nonsense:

Piped

Invidious

Nitter

Teddit

 

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The article about the "subscription" HP ink made me realise something.

Subscriptions aren't a new idea at all. You could subscribe to paper magazines. And you got to keep them.

I'm just clearing up my old house and it's filled with tons of old tech magazines. Lots of useful knowledge here. Wanna know how Windows and Mac compared in 1993? It's in here. All the forgotten technologies? Old games, old phones, whatever? You'll find it.

Now, granted. You'd only get one magazine a month. Not a whole library of movies or games or comic books.

But still, the very definition of subscription has shifted. Now, the common meaning is "you only get to use these things as long as you're paying". Nobody even thinks it could mean anything else.

Besides, it doesn't only apply to services that offer entire libraries. Online magazines still exist in a similar form as the paper ones. But you only get to access them while your "subscription" is active. Even the stuff you had while you were paying.

BTW I'm not throwing my old magazines away. I won't have the space, but a friend is taking it all. If they wouldn't, I'd give them to a library or let someone take them. The online and streaming stuff of today and tomorrow? In 30 years it'll be gone, forgotten and inaccessible.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And on YouTube subscribing means: “We’ll probably show you some videos from this channel every now and then. If you don’t click on those videos, we’ll think you don’t like that channel anymore, but forgot to unsubscribe, so we’ll just stop showing those videos. Actually, we might just stop any time if we don’t like that channel. It’s pretty random TBH.”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hmm… I don’t think this has been my experience. My subscriptions page on YouTube has always shown all the new videos from all of my subscriptions. It's recently changed to also include “shorts” which I hate, but they’re all there whether I’ve watched any of their content or not.

Home page is a different story, but I don’t really scroll there. I always go straight to subs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Correct. Home page is a complete disaster, while the subscription page works the way it should.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know for sure, I'm not an avid watcher, but I've seen several pretty big channels talk about this in their videos and ask people to check their subscription because it does apparently happen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you're describing is the home page, not the subscription page. If you want to see content from your subscriptions, go to your subscription page. I prefer my home page to be a mix of things I know and things I don't know. Found tons of interesting content that way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the subscription page totally works. No problems there… Although some people claim that YT has removed some subcriptions without consent. Never happened to me though, so I don’t know if it’s actually true or not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, it will insist on showing you awful recommendations from channels you have never watched no matter how long you ignore them or how many times you click "not interested".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

LPT: Get a trash account and watch all the viral stuff there. Use your main account for watching all the stuff you really care about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

One of the reasons I don't even bother with a Youtube account and instead track my subscriptions with Invidious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My wife watches a lot of YouTube and has several favorites. She's subscribed to none of them. Apparently lots of people do this and completely ignore the subscription feature.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

To some extent, I do as well.

If I want to see about 30% of the content of a particular channel, I’m absolutely not going to subscribe. Let’s say there’s a channel that made a few cool Minecraft videos, but they also do lots of other random stuff I don’t care about. If I subscribe, YT will send me some of that that 70% as well.

However, if I want to see at least 95% of the videos, subscription is in order. With this method, I’ve been able to curate my home view to be more meaningful and relevant to me.