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What is the difference between cellular data being used on my phone and cellular data being used on my notebook? Data is data.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

There's different internal network configs (APNs), and hotspot uses a different one than regular mobile data. ( or at least it used to). Those can be configured and metered separately from the carrier's end.

LineageOS, and maybe some other custom ROMs, wouldn't do that and would put the hotspot and mobile data on the same APN to get around that.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Can confirm, switching to Graphene solved this problem for me a long while ago.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Doesn’t unlocking the bootloader break Google Pay?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't know, wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's wrong with Google Pay?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

the Google part

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can lock the bootloader again after the flashing process is done(because it will add the signing key of the new OS), but unfortunately the NFC Payments in Google Pay still won't work because Google only allows it on 'certified' Android systems (aka only the preinstalled OS)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this dependent on the ROM, like lineage shouldn't be locked where as calyx is locked likewise for graphine os

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, afaik LineageOS shouldn't be locked, but I was talking about GrapheneOS specifically because @[email protected] was talking about that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

You can in theory still use Google Pay with a Magisk module called Play Integrity Fix and using a fingerprint from a different phone to pass Basic and Device integrity. I'm currently doing it on my Pixel 7 Pro.

But it has a steep learning curve and is a temporary solution that will disappear in roughly a year once Google sunsets legacy integrity methods and starts requiring Strong integrity, which can't be faked under known methods. Google is also actively disabling fingerprints that are being spoofed, making the whole thing frustrating and even more temporary even when it works.

Just let us use our devices, sheesh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ugh. I was dumb and got a Samsung that was offered to me for cheap on the spot. If I had done any research I would have learned that there's no alternative OS options. Now I'm stuck with it, because I'm poor, so I just try to avoid using it. I should keep an eye out for something used that's compatible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

While it's not at the same level as Graphene OS, Samsung is pretty well supported by Lineage OS. AFAIK at least in Europe Samsung phones have an unlockable bootloader, but YMMV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nah. Nobody's figured out how to access the ROM on my specific model, unfortunately, and I'm 900% sure Canadian telecom oligopolists will not be cool about unlocking like that.

In my defense, if it was a laptop it would have been much less foolhardy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I'm still hoping for LineageOS on the Nord N30 but I can't Even find a stock ROM to root it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Even on my unlocked, non vendor phone it seems to not recognize hotspot data as different for some reason.