this post was submitted on 26 Mar 2024
1003 points (97.6% liked)

News

23014 readers
19 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 195 points 7 months ago (9 children)

If this is indicative of The Wire, I should watch it.

[–] [email protected] 161 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.......

[–] [email protected] 76 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Sheeeeeeeit. You should definitely watch it.

Idris Elba started out on it. As did Dominic West (Prince Charles in The Crown), and Aidan Gillen (Littlefinger in Game of Thrones). And Michael Kenneth Williams had some choice parts, he was always great.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget Michael B. Jordan baby facing it up in the first season

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

WHERE WALLACE AT?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

“This…. Is bullshit.” RIP Lance Reddick

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 70 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Yes you should. It is a very realistic portrayal of crime, politics, and the police in Baltimore.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Not just Baltimore. It represents most major American cities and their institutions.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I envy your first watch. It's an incredible show. Only one I personally rank a slight notch higher is Deadwood.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Agreed ... cocksucker.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

IMHO the shield pales in comparison to the Wire. The wire is up there as one of my favorite shows of all time and I couldn’t really get into The Shield.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I had a tough time as well, I think it was the slow burn intro and the shaky camera work (that is actually technique). Try it again and it is most definitely some of the best television of all time. Right up there with breaking bad as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Shield is very different. LA and Baltimore are very different culturally and it shows in the final product. The Shield also focuses on the one squad while The Wire is about the city of Baltimore. Of the two, I personally think The Shield is a little more cartoonish, so The Wire wins out, but The Shield is still excellent.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes it is different but so is Breaking Bad, Bojack Horseman, Futurama, etc. Shows/movies can be different and still be equal in quality.

I'm still going to say that The Shield is up there with the others in quality, regardless of the differing topics and story. I don't want to watch the same movie or TV show over and over with a different cast and slightly different story line.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how this in any way contradicts what I said. I'm not saying only watch The Wire, I'm saying between The Wire and The Shield, having seen both, I prefer The Wire, but they're also very different so it's not a good comparison.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

I'm always amazed at the lack of conversational ability these days.

You have a nice day now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Never watched it. Do you consider it on the same level?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Most definitely.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Both shows are at the top but Deadwood's dialogue has a deliberate rhythm to it that is unmatched. If you get on it's wave length you're in for a treat. I watch it at least once a year and never grow tired of it.

David Milch the creator details his thought process on the rhythm of the dialogue and the push back he got with use of obscenity here: https://youtu.be/F2qk7W8_KLE?si=LxeRNs2N_-kzKiGb&t=1196 (20:01) Once he's done answering that question (around 29:00) i'd stop watching if you haven't seen Deadwood as there are spoilers later in the talk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Milch was wasted on TV, in a sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Right, I think he had a lot more in the tank that we never got to see.

For years I was upset that Deadwood never had a fourth season. When I learned more about Milch and listened to his recent memoir that came out in 2022 I was just glad those first 3 seasons made it to air.

Many people don't survive all the drugs, family problems and a gambling addiction that he had going for him.

It would be cool to see the alternative universe where the other frat member becomes president or the one where Deadwood doesn't get cancelled but this one could be a lot worse really.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Never heard Deadwood discussed anywhere. Will it challenge my Battlestar Galactica run?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Deadwood is the best written, most humane and complex drama I've seen on TV. Watch with subtitles because Milch is a genius and you don't want to miss anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And you might still miss some things the first time but it makes rewatches even better. I rarely feel the desire to rewatch shows, even good ones, Deadwood is the exception.

Hell even the set is amazing because the background extras took their roles so seriously, listening to the commentary tracks the lead actors noted that the background extras/actors developed their own routines and really made the camp come to life.

It had more of a living history museum or renaissance fair vibe than that of a stale set. Everyone invovled with the project had passion for their role no matter how small.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Deadwood is better imo. But I don’t think Battlestar Galactica fans would necessarily agree.

Regardless, give it a shot!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Deadwood is the closest a TV show has gotten to reading a rich, classic work of literature, to me. I've watched the entire series three times in about as many years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

BSG is a very different show but there might be some crossover between the fanbases. Deadwood is legacy HBO, the quality and depth of cast is on another level compared to what the scifi channel had at the time.

It's also endlessly quotable, that's one thing I miss about reddit is the small /r/Deadwood sub. You'll see some general "cocksucka" quotes in the wild but that sub has multiple rewatches under their belt and uses the full range. I have to revist some posts there everytime I rewatch it.

Anyway, here's one of my favorites from Wild Bill in S01E04: https://webm.red/view/cn5t.webm

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Good ol' Charlie Utter. 🥹

One of my favorite, underrated short scenes is Al singing alone in his bar:

https://youtu.be/umWu96AZcAU?si=VUIjEOqx3R1FLgfA

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago

Dude! The Wire is the one of the best shows ever created! Watch on Max, rent DVDs from the library, or just do some normal piracy. You owe yourself a watch of The Wire.

Absolutely brilliant show. And yes, this is indicative of The Wire. 😅

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago

You absolutely should.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I finally gave in and watched it after multiple independent recommendations from people who had strong educated opinions on quality nuanced literature and media. The last series sort of declined a bit, but overall I was in no way disappointed. It was exceptionally well done, and importantly for me, not too watered down with tired tropes, stereotyped single dimensional characters, painfully predictable plots and neatly tidied moral threads.

I mean, there were definitely some, but, it's TV. It holds up extremely well even with age.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

It's also had such a large cultural influence, many of those tropes come from it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

You're going to love Jay Landsman's (Delaney Williams) lines.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

You should. I’ve been binging it the past few weeks and it’s amazing.