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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

The email analogy is bad and needs to end. People hear email and think it's like email. They don't hear the technical how-it-works.

People don't need to know the inner workings to use it. Just tell them it's social media. If you need more, say it's lots of different servers that talk to each other.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The email comparison is good, if you focus on what is actually being compared and not anything else about emails.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's the exact problem, people think about emails. You know, addresses and inbox and CC. They don't focus on or know or understand the technical comparison. They've never had to think about it before. It's the exact wrong way to try to introduce them to fediverse. Don't even say fediverse, just say Lemmy or whatever else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

The fediverse is like how you can send an email from your work to your personal account because the two email servers have a way to talk to each other. It isn't like Facebook or Instagram where you can only send messages to people on the same platform.

How is that not a good analogy?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The analogy certainly worked for me when I first read up on it. “Oh, different servers speaking the same language so they can communicate even though they’re separate entities”.

I imagine the only people who are really confused by it are the ones who simply cannot grasp analogies in general.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

There sure are a lot of people who are focused on everything except the actual comparison.

If someone said that Diet Coke and Diet Sprite tasted awful because they both have artificial sweetners they would just argue that the comparison is confusing because Coke is a dark color and Sprite is clear!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Those are both carbonated sodas though, they perform largely the same function. Unlike email vs social media, which perform entirely different roles.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

OMG, you can't just compare two colors of soda!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Because it explains the stuff regular users don't care about.

Why would they care which server has the content they want to see? They don't do so now. They just want the content.

Call it a free social media with no ads or algorithms. And you will get a much better response.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Ok I've explained this twice, so this will be my last attempt. Because people hear the word "email" and upon hearing the word "email" they, wait for it, think it's email. You know, the email they've used for 20 years. Once they hear the word "email" they stop hearing anything else. They heard the word "email" and have automatically filled in the rest with their experiences of typing "dear madam blah blah blah best regards" and CC this person so they can see it. They have filled it in with their user experience. They have never thought about the inner workings of email with servers or intercommunication.

People do not need to know about the inner workings of email or lemmy in order to use them. Trying to explain the inner workings before they even start is entirely unnecessary. And trying to explain with a different service like email is even worse, well because of what I wrote above. It confuses them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A comparison isn't bad just because some people have trouble with listening to the end of a sentence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The broad explanation is bad. When you lead people into things that you really should know they will automatically fill in with their prior experiences.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That is true of absolutely every comparison.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Compare it social media and they will fill it in with their experiences with social media. Infinitely better and more accurate than email for the user experience. Alright I think I'm out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except social media platforms don't communicate with each other, which is the reason for the email comparison.

Congratulations on coming out!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You are one of the most stubbornly dense people I've ever come across. Lemmy is nothing like email.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because you're not sending messages to other people, you're posting on an open forum. The user experience is totally different to email.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Focus on everything except the actual comparison challenge successful!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people in this thread have never had to explain some piece of tech to someone who doesn't really get technology, and it shows. Your explanation would just confuse most people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So don't explain anything at all ever. Gotcha.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Interesting takeaway, but in your case possibly the right one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I agree with you 100% and have made the same argument elsewhere. You've done a good job explaining and defending it. I usually just tell people it's like reddit but not owned by one company. People who don't really know what a server is can understand the appeal of that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

What you say in the Fediverse echoes everywhere else that is federated. Pick an instance you like and have fun.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

If they're that stupid they can stay out. I'm okay with a barrier to entry.