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Redditors Vent and Complain When People Mock Their "AI Art" (futurism.com)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Setting aside the usual arguments on the anti- and pro-AI art debate and the nature of creativity itself, perhaps the negative reaction that the Redditor encountered is part of a sea change in opinion among many people that think corporate AI platforms are exploitive and extractive in nature because their datasets rely on copyrighted material without the original artists' permission. And that's without getting into AI's negative drag on the environment.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Art is a key branch of human endeavour that can be described as "the study of choice". That's what so many people misunderstand in modern art, is that it's often more focused on the choices themselves rather than trying to be a skillful representation or depiction of some kind. "That's just a ___, my kid could do that."

What is missing from every conversation about AI art is what contribution to "the study of choice" can be made here. There are a thousand variables in the choices made along the way, from which AI and training data was used, to the myriad of prompts used. I am certain that if you were thoughtfully making these choices along the way with a clear idea in mind, you'd be able to make incredibly impactful art that actually enriches us in the usual sense that good art can.

My complaint about AI here, if we will set the enormous scale of theft to one side, is simply that it is being used to create art that doesn't mean anything, which is inimical to the pursuit of art itself.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

My complaint about AI here, if we will set the enormous scale of theft to one side, is simply that it is being used to create art that doesn't mean anything, which is inimical to the pursuit of art itself.

Thank you.

The meaninglessness and soulelessness is a big part of the problem with AI art.

It has no more "point of view" than a random number generator.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I really like that description! The study of choice. I think that under that lens I'll be able to appreciate art in a new way. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Someone really smart said it to me a few months ago and it changed my world

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. AI art is often just a highly skilled visual meme generator used in a reactionary manner to whatever is happening at the time, whether it be denim-infused fediverse posts or mocking political figures.

Other than a few drop-down menus that aren’t any better than an iPhone photo filter app, yeah, all the choices have essentially been already made and recombined by the art generation software.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

A lot of the more technical art generators seem to have a lot fewer fixed parameters. The failure to put in the effort to learn about them and make those choices is what I'd argue makes most AI art inherently worthless.