I like python as a language but this mess is something that needs to be addressed for me to consider python for future projects. I can't imagine how confusing it must be for new users.

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[–] JackbyDev 2 points 1 year ago

I'm only an intermediate python dev but pip and venv do the trick. pyenv with the virtualenv plugin is nice on my Mac machine but I don't have any such equivalent on my Windows machine, I just need to remember to enable the venv.

I used Poetry for some project but ran into some problems. It was a long time ago and I didn't really know enough about what was going on to really explain why it wasn't working well. Part of the problem was that it was on a Raspberry Pi Zero W so it was extremely slow and it is possible everything would've been fine on a more traditional setup. My understanding is that a lot of legacy tools don't define what their dependencies are in a strict way and it is a costly operation for Poetry to execute the code in the setup files or something like that. It took hours but I also think it was trying to build Python from source or something like that.

As a Python hobbyist pip and venv get what I need done and have the massive advantage of coming bundled with Python itself, but I understand that there are problems that Python professionals probably run into that aren't solved as easily.