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Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It's absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn't be allowed to continue.

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[+] [email protected] -33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IF lemmy.ml is admin'd by the Lemmy devs, themselves,

AND their ideology/prejudice is being obstructed by the Lemmy-verse,

THEN wouldn't it be rational for them to engineer-in to Lemmy, itself, protections for their ideology?

Breaking the Fediverse's ability to "manage" them?

or breaking the Fediverse's ability to have any alternative-ideology be its core??

I'm thinking they could either adulterate privacy, deliberately, or they could force blocking to be porous, or something..

IOW, I'm thinking that it is strategically-incompetent to allow tankies to own our core tech, exactly as it is strategically-incompetent to allow right-wing highjackers-of-our-countries to do so.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They could, but it’s open source software. People can just fork it and not follow along such self destructive paths.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Yes, but for example if everyone is running the mainline code, and .ml decides they are going to run a version which does not respect federation updates under certain conditions, they could quietly poison the entire fediverse by spoofing updates from other instances. It's very obvious that they are already selectively federating their modlog, for example. And some other instances already play games with how votes get reported. There is a lot of trust baked into the federation updates, and nobody knows how to exploit that better than dessalines, who is clearly very interested in using the platform to push a specific ideology.

I am absolutely in favor of forking Lemmy to get this out of their hands, fwiw. Specifically for this reason. I think they've shown that they are not above poisoning the code base exactly like this.