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Sarah Silverman, Christopher Golden, and Richard Kadrey are suing OpenAI and Meta over violation of their copyrighted books. The trio says their works were pulled from illegal “shadow libraries” without their consent.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's quite insulting when you dismiss without any greater reasoning than naming an argument. It's subtle, but it wouldn't exactly fly in any kind of serious rl discussion. There's a difference between addressing an argument and simply calling it names and refusing to provide elaboration.

Obviously you can't pay dead people, nor did I say you had to. You could easily simply start, without making it retroactive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That destroys the concept of art a free expression. Every graffiti tagger would owe dues. Art woul become an entry paid guild-like institution

I know you don't realize it, but this i dystopian shit.

It's such a self-evidently bad idea that people didnt realize you'd need it explained.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, not necessarily. There is a huge legal difference between creating something for commercial gain vs creating it on a voluntary basis. When someone has monetized something, they are pulling in an income from which they can pay people.

When someone is doing something on a volunteer or amateur basis, they are not pulling in a similar income. We do stuff like this with our tax system all the time.

We can also draw a line between formal and informal instruction, all "learning" does not have to be the same, after all. There's no reason formal artistic training cannot be required to pay an additional fee where self-study does not. We actually already do this with more technical fields, it's even become a racket--college textbooks. Why do artists get to be exempt?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Again, you're missing the dystopian guild-nature of art that would result from your proposal. I do not understand why this is the hill you want to die on.

College textbooks are not a racket, but rather a result of monopolization of publishing. Why would you want to limit access further?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unlike some people, I simply enjoy interesting conversation. Not crusading to change the world by fighting for my beliefs or whatever. I like intellectual exploration and discussion.

It's not a "hill" and I'm not "dying". It's a conversation. Not my fault if I'm surrounded by internet geeks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't believe you like conversation when you get so defensive of bad ideas.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

There it is again, insulting. Calling me defensive and my ideas bad, but not actually elaborating. I think we've found a troll.