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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

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Finally got rid of telegram, congratulations to me (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It was a many months transition, and it's finally done

Fun thing, you can actually make a backup of all* your messages, groups, contacts, etc. So before leaving you can have all of your data in case you need that one contact or something

The final red flag was as that allegedly Russian authorities were messing with people's deleted messages. Not for the first time there are news that they could read, modify, delete, see location, and etc. Screw it, this is unsafe, I'm out.

Also, these days telegram is really at the state of a pile of garbage, bloated, buggy, and shady messenger.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Honestly, signal is the only thing I would ideally use. But whatsapp is still a better second messenger than telegram.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But whatsapp is still a better second messenger than telegram.

You didn't mean that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry. It might be meta owned, but its metadata theyre stealing. I still trust the e2e encryption. Naively perhaps

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

telegram e2e encryption is open-source, whatsapp not

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Almost no one uses telegram e2e, because it's not automatically activated. Also group chats are not e2e.

I still like to use telegram tho.

Also doesn't Whatsapp just use the signal protocol for e2e?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also Telegram's E2EE chats don't work on desktop apparently, and you are not able to see message contents in the notification (which is a plus or minus depending on you)

Asked a friend earlier today if we could use secret chat. He declined because he mostly chats on desktop, and apparently wants to see messages from notifications while driving.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Jep, all of this is true. I have two chats with some people because of that.

Also you can't search for words within e2e chats, which is a pain in the ass sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Whatsapp is built on the Signal E2EE protocol, Telegram has a terrible homebrew encryption protocol with a ton of weirdness and it has had a long history of weaknesses which they lied aggressively about

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Unpopular but true take.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I didn't use WhatsApp for the last like 3 years already

I have already got rid of the Sim card, but want to setup some sip Sim cards at home for package delivery and work

So like, using WhatsApp is pretty pointless at this point

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I miss Wikr