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I don't totally belong in this community as I rather like cars & motorcycles (but not how dependent our society is on them), but I really enjoyed the well researched video Fortnine put together on how the height of the front bumper/grille is the greatest predictor of pedestrian collision fatality and I felt it'd be a good fit for the community :)

Even as more of a car enthusiast, it's very frustrating how regulations intended to improve emissions have inadvertently resulted in basically every car on the road being a towering murder-behemoth that isn't actually even practical for their "intended" purposes (Speaking about trucks and SUVs since in my mind at least they're supposed to be utility vehicles for getting stuff done. Truck beds are the same size, but far harder to reach/see into, and get stuff out off for really no benefit whatsoever, and also have crap visibility)

I'm sure the way he voices certain things will be frustrating to some folks in this community, and thats fair- I think there's still merit to the way he's trying to push for a single small change that'd make a really big impact on safety (assuming legislators are willing to bite the bullet and actually do something for once). I try to be an ally to the ideas of making society less car-dependent even coming from a different perspective, and I hope y'all can see the value of folks in the enthusiast world as allies to the cause even if we don't share perspectives on everything. (For context, Fortnine is a motorcycling YouTube channel, and is as such obviously run by folks who love and care about motorcycling)

Hopefully this knowledge being more commonplace and widely discussed can more quickly result in legislation that makes cars far safer for pedestrians and cyclists

Hope y'all have a good day :)

Edit: added some context regarding Fortnine that intended to include but initially forgot

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Here's the paper he references that specifically studied the relationship between the height of the front end of the vehicle, and the likelihood of fatality, for those who are interested :)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212012224000017