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Revealed: car industry was warned keyless vehicles vulnerable to theft a decade ago (www.theguardian.com)

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Experts alerted motor trade to security risks of ‘smart key’ systems which have now fuelled highest level of car thefts for a decade.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

To be fair, I think we ignore the security of physical locks. Atleast one must get physical access to the lock in order to pick it.

Or even password books. Atleast someone has to get physical access to said book, which requires knowing it exists in the first place.

Does that make them better? No, not imo, but it is an aspect of these things that often gets overlooked

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Atleast one must get physical access to the lock in order to pick it.

It's a fair point, but if we're taking about cars, I'd say physical access is a given. Keyless vehicles haven't quite enabled remote car thefts just yet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’d also like to point out that most modern vehicles use rolling codes to prevent replay attacks. I’ve only recently learned this as I was concerned about devices like the Flipper making these sorts of techniques to people that otherwise would lack the expertise to put such a device together themselves

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They can also take into account the time it takes to travel from the request to the response so if you're 2x the distance away with a relay that somehow works in the middle, it would take too long and be rejected.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is lockpickinglawyer and today I'm going to show you picking 100 locks in 100 seconds

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

This is the LockpickingLawyer and today I'll show you just how easily I can pick the door to the bunker you're hiding in. And there we have it.